BestB Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: Someone who has full insurance coverage via a home country health policy that now, under the latest rule, will not meet the requirements of an O-A visa and instead will have to buy a $2000 USD or so additional Thai policy that provides duplicative and lesser cover than their own home policy is NOT trying to "cheat or game the system." Rather, they're simply being abused by the Thai authorities for no good reason. I have not looked into insurance rules, but can one really not use existing policy ? does one really need to buy a new one? and does 400 000 baht policy really cost 60 000 baht? My policy is 40 000 000 baht and i pay 60 000 baht per year, find is hard to believe a 400 000 baht policy would cost the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post madmen Posted October 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2019 (edited) 31 minutes ago, SteveK said: The Thai officials refuse to look at paperwork, refuse to acknowledge large amounts of cash, and their mind is made up immediately without listening to anything the traveller has to say. How do you know this? surely not by Internet strangers whith essay length 1st posts with zero proof and many have been proven to be trolls "dragged into a back room and interrogated for 2 hours and screamed at you go home we not want farang followed by 6 days in a filthy cell". and that's with 20k in wallet and return flight!! lmao what idiot buys into that rubbish? Edited October 13, 2019 by madmen 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sillyfool Posted October 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2019 these posts are stupid now. 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onera1961 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 (edited) I don't think reporting to media will have any impact. It is not like people fleeing war zones, violence, rape, and economic misery are denied entry enmasse. Even in that case, media report does not have any impact unless genocide is occuring. Moreoever, media personnel in UK and Europe are all very familiar with why people visit Thailand multiple times in a year. Million of tourists are coming to Thailand every year and most (99.9%) don't have any problem. It is only people who are trying to live in Thailand are having problems. People who are trying to live in Thailand should fly to Kuala Lumpur and try to enter through a land border (like Penang). Penang to Hat Yai by bus is a good no hassle option I would think. They will pick you up in your hotel in Penang and cross the border. If I were in OP's position, I would only use the land border. Yes it is expensive and little inconvinience but it is for now the only safe way to enter. Getting an ED visa just to live in Thailand is not a prudent move, in my opinion. Buying an Elite is OK if the money does not make dent in a person's savings. Use land borders as long as possible. Edited October 13, 2019 by onera1961 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweatalot Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 1 hour ago, EricTh said: Another case of rejected entry, this has been reported almost daily in this forum. Yes, the number of visa/border runners are over. A tourist visa is strictly to visit places of attraction, shopping etc. It's not to visit girlfriends, wives, or doing digital nomad work. Those aren't really tourists. This includes those who are living in Thailand permanently in order to save cost. There are other visas for that. You'r right. But: The other visas like retirement visas, marriage visas are made more and more difficult. First the money in the bank that you cannot touch for months. Then the new plans of compusory health insurance. The hassle with TM 30 ... And more hassle to be expected 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestB Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 14 minutes ago, baboon said: Two things folks can do are spreading the word as widely as possible and spending their money elsewhere. Of course if they were genuine tourists then yeah people would take it serious but when its someone living in the country full time on a tourist visa and leaves the country ONLY to get a new tourist visa, all over sudden it does not sound as bad when they are turned away. Perhaps they should not be issued with a visa to start with and as many have been recently reporting consulates around Thailand, have started doing just that, knocking people back who have more than a few tourist visa's 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mngmn Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 2 hours ago, nightfox said: Surprise surprise....Another falang trying to live in Thailand on a tourist visa being denied. When will people learn that the times have change in Thailand. Thai immigration is right saying that your not a tourist as you know your not a tourist, so why are you acting all shocked?. I would get the hint and save yourself the money on the ED visa and choose another country to live in. I wonder what German immigration will say if a Thai citizen will have a history of tourist visas keep coming into Germany???? I would be careful with your comments! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khon Kaen Jeff Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 It's staggering how gullible you people are..didn't the bit where he commented on what he was wearing give it away?..you lot truly need to get away from your pc's and your sticky rice and get out into the real world, seriously. 1 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestB Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 1 minute ago, sweatalot said: You'r right. But: The other visas like retirement visas, marriage visas are made more and more difficult. First the money in the bank that you cannot touch for months. Then the new plans of compulsory health insurance. The hassle with TM 30 ... And more hassle to be expected Indeed many of the new rules are silly and pointless, HOWEVER would your home country grant anyone long term visa if they did not have money or/and did not have health insurance? $26000 may sound like a lot of money, but in reality it is not. I do also find it silly that one can not touch this money,but many countries require you invest 30 times more than that so kind of the same can not use the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 "I'm just a tourist, have savings and wanting to visit my girlfriend." Visiting your girlfriend is NOT being a tourist. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marqus12 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, onera1961 said: People who are trying to live in Thailand should fly to Kuala Lumpur and try to enter through a land border (like Penang Should they also take a shovel with them to dig a tunnel under the border in case they were retracted at the land border ? Edited October 13, 2019 by marqus12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, BestB said: I have not looked into insurance rules, but can one really not use existing policy ? does one really need to buy a new one? and does 400 000 baht policy really cost 60 000 baht? My policy is 40 000 000 baht and i pay 60 000 baht per year, find is hard to believe a 400 000 baht policy would cost the same Yes, that's a realistic figure for the O-A insurance policies listed on the TGIA website. And yes, as things stand now, people will have to buy a local Thai policy from a participating Thai provider -- even if they have better/full coverage from their home country or elsewhere -- except for the first year of applying for an O-A where a foreign policy MAY be accepted. The premium amounts of course are going to vary based on the individual insurer and also the age of the applicant, since 50 vs 60 vs 70 vs 80 makes a huge difference for health insurance premiums. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sillyfool Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said: "I'm just a tourist, have savings and wanting to visit my girlfriend." Visiting your girlfriend is NOT being a tourist. girlfriend experience ? ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweatalot Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 22 minutes ago, SteveK said: Someone needs to do this. A few cautionary stories about Thai immigration in some Western papers would help to raise the issue. Thailand could easily counter this by telling that those people had not the correct visa and were trying to cheat and make clear what a tourist visa is for and wha not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 (edited) 43 minutes ago, SteveK said: Someone needs to do this. A few cautionary stories about Thai immigration in some Western papers would help to raise the issue. Stop moaning, these people are not tourist. Visiting your girlfriend isn't being a tourist, same like being a digital nomad. Get a proper visa and don't make a fool out of yourself with your sob stories to a news paper. They will ignore these BS sob stories because you have no legal right to live here on a tourist visa. Edited October 13, 2019 by FritsSikkink 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mngmn Posted October 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2019 12 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said: "I'm just a tourist, have savings and wanting to visit my girlfriend." Visiting your girlfriend is NOT being a tourist. Australian authorities seem to think that visiting your partner in their country is an acceptable reason to get an Australian visitors visa. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweatalot Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, mngmn said: Australian authorities seem to think that visiting your partner in their country is an acceptable reason to get an Australian visitors visa. but not a tourist visa Edited October 13, 2019 by sweatalot 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david555 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said: Stop moaning, these people are not tourist. Visiting your girlfriend isn't being a tourist, same like bein a digital nomad. Get a proper visa and don't make a fool out of yourself with your sob stories to a news paper. They will ignore these BS sob stories because you have no legal right to live here on a tourist visa. Maybe marry his girlfriend could help him out ….? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SteveK Posted October 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2019 1 minute ago, david555 said: Maybe marry his girlfriend could help him out ….? Until they start making it even harder to get a non-O on the basis of marriage. 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestB Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 21 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: Yes, that's a realistic figure for the O-A insurance policies listed on the TGIA website. And yes, as things stand now, people will have to buy a local Thai policy from a participating Thai provider -- even if they have better/full coverage from their home country or elsewhere -- except for the first year of applying for an O-A where a foreign policy MAY be accepted. The premium amounts of course are going to vary based on the individual insurer and also the age of the applicant, since 50 vs 60 vs 70 vs 80 makes a huge difference for health insurance premiums. Well this is just super stupid . If one has existing policy with required coverage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david555 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 1 minute ago, SteveK said: Until they start making it even harder to get a non-O on the basis of marriage. Until …… until can count for us all in time ….as I hear now next year also for Ret Ext based on non O need also THAI insurance , not only for the O-A ones as from 31 October now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SteveK Posted October 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2019 1 minute ago, david555 said: Until …… until can count for us all in time ….as I hear now next year also for Ret Ext based on non O need also THAI insurance , not only for the O-A ones as from 31 October now It wouldn't surprise me at all if in the next few years that start forcing all visitors to buy insurance, and then start whacking up the amount that you need to have on deposit to 500k/1M baht. Things seem to be constantly changing in Thailand, and never in our favour. 4 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FritsSikkink Posted October 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, SteveK said: Until they start making it even harder to get a non-O on the basis of marriage. It isn't hard at all. 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestB Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, david555 said: Until …… until can count for us all in time ….as I hear now next year also for Ret Ext based on non O need also THAI insurance , not only for the O-A ones as from 31 October now In the mean time as company director I can not apply for social security to get free treatment in hospitals , got to love the irony ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hackney35 Posted October 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2019 10 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said: Stop moaning, these people are not tourist. Visiting your girlfriend isn't being a tourist, same like bein a digital nomad. Get a proper visa and don't make a fool out of yourself with your sob stories to a news paper. They will ignore these BS sob stories because you have no legal right to live here on a tourist visa. What do you call visiting a girlfriend then if it isn’t tourist? He isn’t working in Thailand in any way. What would you classify what he is doing if he isn’t visiting as a tourist? He’s not living here, he’s visiting his gf for a few months a year. Baffling to me what the Thai immigration policy has turned into. Comparing it to Western European immigration policies is also baffling. 1st world and 3rd world do not have the same policies!!! 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestB Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 1 minute ago, SteveK said: It wouldn't surprise me at all if in the next few years that start forcing all visitors to buy insurance, and then start whacking up the amount that you need to have on deposit to 500k/1M baht. Things seem to be constantly changing in Thailand, and never in our favour. This was already proposed , 100 baht for each and every visitor but was shelved , just about 1-2 weeks ago 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 1 minute ago, SteveK said: It wouldn't surprise me at all if in the next few years that start forcing all visitors to buy insurance, and then start whacking up the amount that you need to have on deposit to 500k/1M baht. Things seem to be constantly changing in Thailand, and never in our favour. So move to another country. 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david555 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 1 minute ago, SteveK said: It wouldn't surprise me at all if in the next few years that start forcing all visitors to buy insurance, and then start whacking up the amount that you need to have on deposit to 500k/1M baht. Things seem to be constantly changing in Thailand, and never in our favour. The 500K/1 mill would not disturb me soo much as the insurance , hence age higher pricing , and example not accepting foreign insurance which I have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 1 minute ago, BestB said: In the mean time as company director I can not apply for social security to get free treatment in hospitals , got to love the irony ???? As a company director of a proper business with a decent salary, you should be able to get private insurance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 17 minutes ago, mngmn said: Australian authorities seem to think that visiting your partner in their country is an acceptable reason to get an Australian visitors visa. That isn't a tourist visa, how hard is that to understand? 1 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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