Matzzon 13,663 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 1 hour ago, rkidlad said: Immigration are police. Gratuities paid to an officer of the law is a bribe. It’s against the law. ignorance is no excuse for breaking the law. It´s not paid. It´s a refusal of accepting change, which means that the money is given to the office and not a single officer. Mean it´s tip or a gift that is considered to be for coffée and coffée at a break. There would be a difference if you are stopped for drunk driving and take upp your wallet to hand an unknown bunch of money for the officer to let you go. That would be a bribe. I know you have a hard time to see the difference between things. Reality check! The world is not only black and white. Still waiting for you to show what I asked for. Link to post Share on other sites
rkidlad 32,011 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, Matzzon said: It´s not paid. It´s a refusal of accepting change, which means that the money is given to the office and not a single officer. Mean it´s tip or a gift that is considered to be for coffée and coffée at a break. There would be a difference if you are stopped for drunk driving and take upp your wallet to hand an unknown bunch of money for the officer to let you go. That would be a bribe. I know you have a hard time to see the difference between things. Reality check! The world is not only black and white. Still waiting for you to show what I asked for. Stop paying tips and breaking the law. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
alan grice 324 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 He can blame his IPhone. There are often problems with such phones. Yeh , Northern Ernies find that out just after they stole one.!.Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Matzzon 13,663 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) 25 minutes ago, rkidlad said: Stop paying tips and breaking the law. Not breaking the law. Tips is seen illigal in combination with entering the country as in the picture you showedme, that was totally irrelevant to what this thread is about. There is nothing unlawful in refusing to take the change back for 2000 baht when the price is 1900 baht, due to that it is made after the service is performed. We can stop there now, because I have asked enough many time and know that you can not produce what I ask for. Next time, do not spread information about me posting things that is not true. Remember that. Edited October 15, 2019 by Matzzon Link to post Share on other sites
rkidlad 32,011 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 12 minutes ago, Matzzon said: Not breaking the law. Tips is seen illigal in combination with entering the country as in the picture you showedme, that was totally irrelevant to what this thread is about. There is nothing unlawful in refusing to take the change back for 2000 baht when the price is 1900 baht, due to that it is made after the service is performed. We can stop there now, because I have asked enough many time and know that you can not produce what I ask for. Next time, do not spread information about me posting things that is not true. Remember that. Ignorance of the law is no excuse. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Matzzon 13,663 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) 24 minutes ago, rkidlad said: Ignorance of the law is no excuse. Ok, I will make it easy. Show me that law. A law that states tip is not allowed on an amount that should be payed, as tip is not to be connected to the thing the word bribe. Edited October 15, 2019 by Matzzon Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Scouse123 3,865 Posted October 15, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 15, 2019 17 hours ago, Matzzon said: Good summary! And that makes it all okey? Time for my cookies and milk. Can I sleep now? My God we wish you would! 1 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Matzzon 13,663 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Scouse123 said: My God we wish you would! Welcome back. Did you wake up now? Hard night? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Scouse123 3,865 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 39 minutes ago, Matzzon said: Not breaking the law. Tips is seen illigal in combination with entering the country as in the picture you showedme, that was totally irrelevant to what this thread is about. There is nothing unlawful in refusing to take the change back for 2000 baht when the price is 1900 baht, due to that it is made after the service is performed. We can stop there now, because I have asked enough many time and know that you can not produce what I ask for. Next time, do not spread information about me posting things that is not true. Remember that. Mad as a wasp on a summers day my friend...lol and so is your logic. Link to post Share on other sites
Scouse123 3,865 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Just now, Matzzon said: Welcome back. Did you wake up now? Hard night? Yeah, Had to have a few to get my head around some of your comments, however, the Thais up here think you are hilarious! So please ' Carry on Mac Duff ' Link to post Share on other sites
Matzzon 13,663 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 7 minutes ago, Scouse123 said: Mad as a wasp on a summers day my friend...lol and so is your logic. 5 minutes ago, Scouse123 said: Yeah, Had to have a few to get my head around some of your comments, however, the Thais up here think you are hilarious! So please ' Carry on Mac Duff ' Just saying like this. I have been posting some today, so you will have a lot to do. Cheers! Can you do that without making personal attacks, please. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
transam 49,737 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 40 minutes ago, Matzzon said: Not breaking the law. Tips is seen illigal in combination with entering the country as in the picture you showedme, that was totally irrelevant to what this thread is about. There is nothing unlawful in refusing to take the change back for 2000 baht when the price is 1900 baht, due to that it is made after the service is performed. We can stop there now, because I have asked enough many time and know that you can not produce what I ask for. Next time, do not spread information about me posting things that is not true. Remember that. YOU are rather naive, YOU chastise folk here near every day for not following the rule of law, yet YOU are handing money over to paid officials with no receipt given. If I photographed your action YOU would be in deep doo doo. Now YOU are bringing out the I am "innocent card" when you obviously are not. YOU are indeed a hypocrite, but I am glad to see you are NOT Peter Perfect, as YOU proclaim...YOU have lost your high horse... Link to post Share on other sites
Matzzon 13,663 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 11 minutes ago, Scouse123 said: My God we wish you would! You also read this in the morning day after and make that kind of answer. That´s hilarious. Shows me a lot. Link to post Share on other sites
Matzzon 13,663 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, transam said: YOU are rather naive, YOU chastise folk here near every day for not following the rule of law, yet YOU are handing money over to paid officials with no receipt given. If I photographed your action YOU would be in deep doo doo. Now YOU are bringing out the I am "innocent card" when you obviously are not. YOU are indeed a hypocrite, but I am glad to see you are NOT Peter Perfect, as YOU proclaim...YOU have lost your high horse... You must have a big problem. I will send you a PM next time I go to Immigration and invite you and your camera. What am I handing over without a receipt. I get a receipt on 1900, hand over 2000. When they wish to give me back, I give a wai and walk towards the door. Edited October 15, 2019 by Matzzon Link to post Share on other sites
rkidlad 32,011 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 17 minutes ago, Matzzon said: Ok, I will make it easy. Show me that law. A law that states tip is not allowed on an amount that should be payed, as tip is not to be connected to the thing the word bribe. Please refrain from tipping officials and breaking the law. It makes life for the rest of us foreigners harder. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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