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1 hour ago, Basil B said:

Here we go again blame the EU, They are in Brussels waiting for Boris.

Boris spent most of yesterday trying to come up with a deal that the ERG and DUP will accept, this is a guy who really believes Farther Christmases sledge is pulled by Unicorns and all those Tory MP's he F'ed Off the other week are going to vote for his deal when in reality the whole of the Tory party is falling apart like a clowns car at the circus.

Well if thats the case ,Corbyns Labour party have dissapeared up their own bum

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11 hours ago, bristolboy said:

Maybe you should arm yourself with a clove of garlic and a crucifix.

And a tin hat

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2 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said:

Classic Brexiteer deflection. The post was about Johnson and the Tory party. You had no answer for it, so deflected to the Labour party. Same as proliferating the forum with smiley faces. You have no answer to people's posts so answer them with an adolescent smiley face. Pathetic. Brexiteers really don't have game.

And your reply is a typical remainer deflection ,accusing us Brexiteers of it , want to carry on?,

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On 10/15/2019 at 4:34 PM, JonnyF said:

There's life outside the EU. Open your eyes. 

Of course there is.

 

And as Boris Johnson made new concessions to Brussels in the hope of securing a withdrawal agreement, a respected think tank warned that even if a deal is reached, the uncertainty and disruption of Brexit can be expected to drag on to the middle of the 2020s or beyond, with the danger of multiple no-deal cliff-edges along the way.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-cost-economy-deal-boris-johnson-withdrawal-agreement-nhs-a9157461.html?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=INDNEWS%2316102019&utm_term=IND_Headlines_Masterlist_CDP

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3 minutes ago, bert bloggs said:

And your reply is a typical remainer deflection ,accusing us Brexiteers of it , want to carry on?,

I didn't accuse you of "it", I highlighted the facts of your replies. Bring it on.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said:

I didn't accuse you of "it", I highlighted the facts of your replies. Bring it on.

 

 

Bored now ,you can go and sit in "Hells garden" and cool down ,Bang Sean is nice this time of day .😉

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1 minute ago, bert bloggs said:

Bored now ,you can go and sit in "Hells garden" and cool down ,Bang Sean is nice this time of day .😉

Great idea but too busy today. maybe tomorrow!

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1 hour ago, DannyCarlton said:

I'm sorry but you've fallen for the Brexiteer rhetoric. For argument's sake, let's take the value of the £ as an indicator of the state of the UK economy.

 

Immediately after the vote for Brexit, the £ fell like a stone. This wasn't due to "uncertainty", it was due to the prospect of the UK leaving the EU, causing irrevocable damage to the UK economy.

 

Currently, every time that there's the slightest prospect that we leave with no deal, the £ drops, every time a no deal exit seems less lightly, the £ recovers. This isn't due to "uncertainty", it's due to the certainty of the long term damage that a no deal exit would do to the UK economy.

 

Daniel Cummings will have you believe that the fragility in the economy and the low value of the £ is due to "uncertainty" and once we have left the EU, deal or no deal, everything in the garden will be rosey, the UK economy will flourish and the value of the £ will reach new heights. If this were true, why would the £ fall every time exit and particularly no deal exit looks more certain and rise when it seems less certain?

 

Don't listen to Cummings' lies, listen to the global economists, they deal in hard nosed facts, leaving the EU will be a disaster for the UK economy. They know this, so should you.

 

Uncertainty? My backside!

Yes, the pound did fall against all other currencies the day after the referendum, actually it had been falling for days before the referendum when it became clear the result could be leave,  but the value of the pound isn't the the only factor in our economy, other things like GDP, employment, wages, inflation also count.

 

As for uncertaity, we do not know if it will be Brexit with a deal, a no deal Brexit, another referendum, or Brexit abandoned.

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1 hour ago, DannyCarlton said:

Classic Brexiteer deflection. The post was about Johnson and the Tory party. You had no answer for it, so deflected to the Labour party. Same as proliferating the forum with smiley faces. You have no answer to people's posts so answer them with an adolescent smiley face. Pathetic. Brexiteers really don't have game.

Brexiteers are made of the stuff that made Britain 'Great' and will keep Britain 'Great. They thrive on turning uncertainty and adversity into achievements and success.

 

Remainers are ALL about uncertainty, doom and gloom and going cap in hand to Brussels asking, 'Please sir, may I have some more?" And that includes the ones in uncertainty denial.

 

BTW. who on Earth is Daniel Cummings when he's at home?

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2 hours ago, sandyf said:

Of course there is.

 

And as Boris Johnson made new concessions to Brussels in the hope of securing a withdrawal agreement, a respected think tank warned that even if a deal is reached, the uncertainty and disruption of Brexit can be expected to drag on to the middle of the 2020s or beyond, with the danger of multiple no-deal cliff-edges along the way.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-cost-economy-deal-boris-johnson-withdrawal-agreement-nhs-a9157461.html?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=INDNEWS%2316102019&utm_term=IND_Headlines_Masterlist_CDP

The CER are worried about having to relocate out of London.

 

If you are talking about the IfG, they are speculating based on what? The 3-and-half years to get this far? Nobody has ever left the EU before so nobody can realistically predict that things can be 'expected to drag' into whenever. Nobody can realistically claim there will be any "multiple no-deal cliff-edges." I thought project fear was past its sell-by date already?

 

It's half-past ime for the training wheels to come off the bloody bike!

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On 10/15/2019 at 3:24 PM, BritManToo said:

Well, only 15 days left now, it'll happen or Johnson will be gone.

He may well be gone, but he'll be back. Reported on LBC this am The Tories are polling 37%, Labour 22%. Even more remarkable Boris is polling 32% with young people under 30 years of age to Corbyn's 22%. Remarkable, and very bad news for Corbyn. Easy to see why Labour are using every excuse possible to avoid an election. They can't hide forever though. 

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