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9 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

You don't know Teebee (or dick) either.

 

But with 27 EUroclones versus the British Empire, I am seriously getting your allusion to bullying.

 

Take a number.

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4 hours ago, sanemax said:

Suggesting that people are "old & stupid" is indeed being rude and isnt stating facts .

 

Some % of the population are going to be old and another % of them are going to be stupid(some both!) these are facts.

 

Their votes count just as much.

 

Which is in part why we have a representative democracy rather than a direct one.

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12 minutes ago, tebee said:

Some % of the population are going to be old and another % of them are going to be stupid(some both!) these are facts.

 

Their votes count just as much.

 

Which is in part why we have a representative democracy rather than a direct one.

For someone to be calling others stupid, you dont come across as being too intelligent yourself 

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95 %  May's treaty. SNP/DUP against  , Labour will whip amendment. No Deal threat not taken seriously. 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-50088300

 

Barnier has said no FTA without sharing fishing rights and regulatory alignment at the next stage- Farage frothing that this is a EU trap and absolutely not brexit.  Oh and don't forget the 39 billion still have to pay that. 

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EU want referendum and remain as the last play. That will help concentrate minds. There will be no No Deal of that I am 100% certain. DUP on 6'0 Clock in furious mood. Game still on. 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/oct/17/boris-johnson-and-eu-reach-brexit-deal-without-dup-backing

 

https://www.ft.com/content/a513c33c-f02a-11e9-ad1e-4367d8281195

The UK must have a public vote on Boris Johnson’s Brexit deal
Britons must agree to become significantly poorer and accept the illusion of greater sovereignty

 

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1 hour ago, sanemax said:

For someone to be calling others stupid, you dont come across as being too intelligent yourself 

You base your esteemed opinion on what?

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1 hour ago, sanemax said:

For someone to be calling others stupid, you dont come across as being too intelligent yourself 

so what exact do you dispute ? At what age do you consider people old ?

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5 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

Without doubt. But putting an under equipped and under strength army up against the Wehrmacht was always going to result in this.

Its a valuable lesson from history which we are now repeating. Thinking just because we are British we are somehow superior is what got us into that mess. A mistake we are repeating it seems.

It certainly was a setback for the 51st Highland division who were sacrificed in order to protect the beaches while the evacuation was happening.  

At a danger of a slight detour from topic, yes entirely. My stepfather spent 4 years as a POW as a result, fortunately one man to escape was Donald MacLeod, the finest piper of his generation. Churchill deemed the 51st expendable, the Coldstream guards were saved needless to say. 

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10 hours ago, sanemax said:

Who stated that and when ?

You’re welcome...

 

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8 hours ago, NanLaew said:

Hold on rookie... I though the narrative was the uneducated Leaver didn't listen to anything they were being told. They were too stupid to be trusted with a vote. Make your mind up.

 

Sorry rookie... it is rookie isn't it? Any idea that the UK could exercise anything close to the Norwegian option was sh!tcanned very early in this pantomime by the prevarication and obfuscation of the Remainer tribe.

 

The Brexit default is and always will be no deal.

 

If you don't want a deal, on your head be it. Unfortunately.

This is absolute nonsense and you know it.

Are trying to tell us that although the leave campaign told everyone that we would stay in the single market Brexiteers didnt believe them and wanted a no deal?

Johnsons deal does not deliver what leave promised. If you want to know if people want it then you need to hold a referendum and find out.

But you wont do that because what YOU want is a no deal Brexit. 

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16 hours ago, billd766 said:

I think that of those 27 other countries perhaps 6 or 7 are net payers in and the remainder get subsidised.

Isn't that the basis of the welfare state Bill, some pay in and others collect.

Contribution from income tax to the welfare state 23.8% and to the EU budget it is 0.72%, but to many the EU contribution is perceived as extortionist and unacceptable. 

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15 hours ago, sanemax said:

British people are confident that the UK can stand on its own two feet .

We dont need the rest of Europe to improve us  

The UK stood on it's own 2 feet by taking from others, not going to get away with that again.

If England want to take that route so be it, but they do not have the right to deny others of belonging to a union of their choosing.

I am a unionist and is it out of the question for the Conservative and Unionist Party to respect the views of all unionists.

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16 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

Without doubt. But putting an under equipped and under strength army up against the Wehrmacht was always going to result in this.

Its a valuable lesson from history which we are now repeating. Thinking just because we are British we are somehow superior is what got us into that mess. A mistake we are repeating it seems.

It certainly was a setback for the 51st Highland division who were sacrificed in order to protect the beaches while the evacuation was happening.  

It could also have been that the German army went through the Ardennes forest when the allied armies believed that it couldn't be done. The Germans also invaded Belgium and captured Fort Eban Emael bypassing the Maginot line which ended at the Belgian/French border.

It was sad about the 51st Highland division but somebody had to stay as the rearguard. there is some interesting stuff about the 51st here. https://51hd.co.uk/history/valery_1940

 

I think that we are wandering off topic and perhaps "The Management" will send us to the naughty room.

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7 minutes ago, evadgib said:

Back on topic (& up to date)...

 

I don't think farage and the brexit party have any say in the matter as they don't have any MPs.

 

He should stop running off at the mouth and leave this to the adults.

 

Also the autor of the latest of your many tweets is a Fox news presenter. Hardly a reliable unbiased scource.

 

 

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