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Found out today , to my horror,at nong Bualamphu immigration. That the combination of your pension and money in bank account was no longer valid unless pension was more than b65,000 per month or your account had more than b800,000. The Australian embassy has stopped issuing stat decks , not sure if that’s the reason, seems very strange reasoning to me. Has anyone else had this problem?

 

 

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Not related to Android and iOS App Support, moving to the Visas forum. 

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The combo method is still a valid way of proving you are financially qualified for your extension. However, the way they measure "income" for those who cannot get an embassy letter has changed. Income now is only money transferred from abroad into Thailand as a single sum at about the same time each month. Also, the money in the bank is now subject to adjusted requirements. The whole of that component of financial proof must now be retained in the bank for longer, and some must remain year round. It is complicated enough trying to satisfy the rules for income only (without embassy letter) or bank deposit only. I am not surprised your local immigration office does not want to deal with verifying the combination of the two.

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The combination option is still possible according the rules but some office do not want do them and say it is not possible.

This is what the new rules state if you cannot get proof of income from your embassy to prove your income.

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And the order that shows the combination option.

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Have you been doing monthly transfers into a Thai bank from abroad and how many have you done?

 

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13 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

The combination option is still possible according the rules but some office do not want do them and say it is not possible.

I have seen here on TV that combination was accepted at Jomtien, yet one of the well known visa agents was quite adamant recently stating it was no longer an option for retirement extensions. Not sure what is the actual state of play.

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12 hours ago, lamyai3 said:

I don't know if the whole thing was a crackdown that fizzled out, or a deliberate targeting of certain embassies by immigration, but given the fact that it's a year later and no further embassies have followed suit, it's high time this matter got revisited. 

As I understand it, they targeted those embassies that just took a person's word (under oath) for it, instead of verifying that they actually have the income that they claim. My embassy, for example, has always required supporting documents. They still issue the letters and Thai immigration seems satisfied with that, no changes whatsoever.

 

You're right about their insistence on actual verification having created a two-tier system, but I'd say it's ultimately because different embassies operate in different legal frameworks.

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13 hours ago, lamyai3 said:

Idiotic comment. The three rogue embassies were directly responsible for increasing the income requirement for their own nationals when they yielded to immigration's insistence that 100% of it has to be brought into Thailand, incurring both transfer expenses, and a lack of option to keep some of that income in their home country where it may also be needed.

 

This has created a two tier system, with citizens of the remaining countries who continue to provide income letters enjoying considerable less onerous conditions around obtaining extensions. I don't know if the whole thing was a crackdown that fizzled out, or a deliberate targeting of certain embassies by immigration, but given the fact that it's a year later and no further embassies have followed suit, it's high time this matter got revisited. 

Nothing wrong with giving out these certification from embassies. But basically there was a two tier system already with US inhabitants only having to swear something without proof and the rest of us having to show data to our embassy to substantiate the documents.

 

Embassies should just keep giving the document as long as there are enough funds but should check it so the Thais are satisfied. 

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17 minutes ago, Caldera said:

As I understand it, they targeted those embassies that just took a person's word (under oath) for it, instead of verifying that they actually have the income that they claim. My embassy, for example, has always required supporting documents. They still issue the letters and Thai immigration seems satisfied with that, no changes whatsoever.

 

You're right about their insistence on actual verification having created a two-tier system, but I'd say it's ultimately because different embassies operate in different legal frameworks.

Indeed that is how i see it too.. there were embassies that were too lax with checks while others like the Dutch one really checked the documents. They still give out letters after real checks not the.. i swear. (trust but verify) 

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