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10 hours ago, zydeco said:

Yep. Great comparison! Because I see the Hong Kong protesters out there chopping off reporters' heads, capturing downed pilots and burning them alive in cages, etc., etc., etc.

Petrol bombs and a razor attack on a policemans neck? IEDs? They're getting there.

10 hours ago, taxout said:

"China opposes US passage of HK-related legislation"

https://global.chinadaily.com.cn/a/201910/16/WS5da66a6ca310cf3e35570ae0.html

 

If telling the US Congress what legislation it should or should not enact isn't interference in US affairs, I'm not sure what would be.

 

 

 

A newspaper comment versus legislation? Must do better.

8 hours ago, Selatan said:

So China was right all along - that the US was behind the protests and riots in Hong Kong.

Was anyone in any doubt?

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5 minutes ago, singking said:


Pretty close. Let’s face it the total hypocrisy of America and the obviously glaring connections between HK and anything China associated is... well basically ignorant. Come on folks, this uneducated view that the western (controlled) media is perpetrating of China is just straight out schoolyard white supremacy jealousy. We are better than this. Well most of us are I would hope. America has shown its colours over and over and over. It’s time to grow up and admit that we (the West) have generally made a <deleted>ful mess of the world. Lets stand aside, regroup and let someone else have a go. We are not gods. We are not the supreme beings. Sure the movies say we are, but isn’t that the whole problem? Our analogy of the world revolves around fantasy. Our history, even as manipulated as it is, still shows we are the masters of one direction, rape, pillage and plunder. Time for ALL of us to become adults and most of all HUMAN BEINGS.


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Not so sure about that.  I’m glad that I’m a British peasant and not a Chinese peasant, and most of my colleagues don’t want to be subjected to Chinese colonial rule.

 

Despite the recent troubles, plenty of Chinese people who can afford it move to Hong Kong. Or Canada.

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2 minutes ago, StreetCowboy said:

Not so sure about that.  I’m glad that I’m a British peasant and not a Chinese peasant, and most of my colleagues don’t want to be subjected to Chinese colonial rule.

 

Despite the recent troubles, plenty of Chinese people who can afford it move to Hong Kong. Or Canada.

Your colleagues can breathe easy. China has no colonial ambitions.

 

Waits for regurgitation of American think tank reports on the South China Sea and Indian border squabbles. 🙂

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9 minutes ago, Traubert said:

Your colleagues can breathe easy. China has no colonial ambitions.

 

Waits for regurgitation of American think tank reports on the South China Sea and Indian border squabbles. 🙂

Sarcasm will get you nowhere.  My colleagues are fully aware of China’s colonial ambitions on our project, in their country and elsewhere.

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3 hours ago, StreetCowboy said:

I was speaking to one of the Hongkies at work, and his view was that it was mostly about disillusionment and disenfranchisement.

 

As I recall, either the Basic Law or the agreement involved a gradualmove towards democracy. 

Young people feel that they are being priced out of their own country by hot money fromChina and elsewhere, and I think that the riots have been an effective tool against inflation, albeit a bitter medicine with worse side-effects than chemotherapy

China had offered the universal suffrage deal back in 2014 but the anti-China opposition lawmakers blocked it because they didn't want any candidate to be filtered by China. But why would China allow anti-China candidates to run as Chief Executive of HK? Foreign powers can always spend a lot of money to make sure their puppets win, don't you think? 

Overthrowing other people’s governments: The Master List

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10 hours ago, jany123 said:

Maybe that’s because this has come from the house 😎

Lol , I would suggest rather more than maybe.

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10 hours ago, Longcut said:

Like I said, it doesn't matter. American don't wake up in the morning and think. Gee, I wonder what other countries are thinking of us today.  I wonder if the Queen of England is happy with us or not. Meghan Markle is a good example. She refuses to bend a knee to others  and they are not happy about it. But, she doesn't care. She's American first.

Well that makes her a better bet than Trump , you should ask her to run against him.

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8 hours ago, Selatan said:

Well, the US is ranked #17 and Hong Kong is ranked #3 in the 2018 Human Freedom Index by the Cato Institute. And yet the US rushed to enact a Hong Kong Human Rights and Democracy Act instead of a Saudi Arabia Human Rights and Democracy Act. Saudi Arabia is ranked #146 in that list, mind you.

Ah but where is China on the list ?Because Hong Kong will soon join them if the brave demonstrators are defeated and slaughtered as happened at Tiananamen Square.

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7 hours ago, Selatan said:

Look at the bill itself. Why would the US wants to bar Hong Kong from implementing Article 23 of the Hong Kong's Basic Law but hypocritically wants China to implement Article 45 by 2020?

 

That's because the National Endowment for Democracy (NED), which is a well-known CIA front to channel money to overthrow governments all over the world, have provided funds to Hong Kong politicians that are anti-China.

 

U.S. Fingerprints All Over Hong Kong Violence

 

Hong Kong activist goes on defensive after being photographed with US consulate official

Lol , you must be new at the job , here is a little tip ; Its best not to use Chinese state propaganda to confirm your own pro Chinese propaganda .

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"A newspaper comment versus legislation? Must do better."

 

You really should read the link before commenting, otherwise you look ill-informed. It wasn't a newspaper commentary; it was a news story reporting on a statement by China's Foreign Ministry:

 

"Foreign Ministry spokesman Geng Shuang said in an online statement that if the act becomes a law, it will not only undermine China's interests and Sino-US relations, but also the interests of the US itself.  .  ,  ,  Calling the passing of the act a 'wrong decision' by the US, Geng urged Washington to understand the situation clearly, immediately stop advancing the act and interfering in Hong Kong's affairs as well as China's domestic affairs."

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On 10/16/2019 at 11:14 AM, soalbundy said:

I wonder what the US would think if China started protesting about the "wall" on the Mexican border.

Might get the the idea to annex Mexico to the US. Make it an autononous area and then immediately break the rules and drive the natives to South America. Sounds like a plan.

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