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Erdogan says Turkey will never declare ceasefire in northern Syria

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43 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I gave that a laugh, and when I read it I did fall about laughing, but the truth is it is not at all funny.


Many, many people thought this letter was a joke, until Ms. Grisham confirnmed that it was "real".


Starts off as Monty Hall, ends as a thirteen-year old girl.



Can't see how he can handle this level of criticism and pressure.


Speaker Pelosi sent him to his room, no ice cream for you young man. You can tell that she raised five children, and the president, well not sure what he raised exactly. Doesn't strike me as a hands-on father.




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The worst possible Nato member; both him and Trump should be charged with war crimes.

in around 1923, the ottoman empire was dismantled by the allies after ww1.  the muslim ottoman empire signed a host of peace treaties including the versailles and lausanne peace treaties.  if you've e

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I gave that a laugh, and when I read it I did fall about laughing, but the truth is it is not at all funny.


Trump has written down the grounds for him to be found not fit for office and then he signed it.


Why with evidence like this anyone needs to resort to calling Trump names, or making joke misspellings of his name is a mystery.


The evidence is before our eyes, he’s an incompetent idiot, a very dangerous incompetent idiot.


But he's surrounded himself with sycophants making that impossible via article 25.


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The United States is now bombing its own base in Syria as Turkish forces prepare to take it over

"Here’s how The Wall Street Journal described it: Our military, quote, carried out air strikes to destroy the Syrian headquarters of the American campaign to destroy ISIS after rapidly pulling Americans from the base.’ We bombed our own headquarters in the fight against ISIS because they were about to be taken over by Turkish backed forces"



""I captured ISIS. Mattis said it would take two years. I captured them in one month. President Trump on Wednesday called his former Defense secretary James Mattis "the world's most overrated general" during a tense meeting with lawmakers on the situation in Syria."

"You know why? He wasn’t tough enough,"


"Donald Trump has hailed his decision to withdraw US troops in Syria, paving way for a Turkish offensive, as “strategically brilliant”, declaring that the Kurds he had abandoned were “much safer now” and were anyway “not angels”.

The Turkish campaign against Kurdish fighters has strengthened Moscow’s hand in the region and signalled the diminishinginfluence of the US.



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3 minutes ago, farmerjo said:

Could be possible that Erdogan is clearing space to send the 3.66 million syrian refugees in his country back home.

"A man speaking Russian posted video of an abandoned U.S. base in northern Syria on Tuesday, the same day that Russia announced that its forces had moved into the region."

The video, in which the man says, "Let's see how the Americans lived," was posted on social media from the empty base near Manbij, in Aleppo province about 15 miles from the Turkish border.

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4 minutes ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

He's keeping his promises to bring back the troops? How do you square that with him sending an additional 3,000 to Saudi Arabia?

Facts and reality don't mix with the 45 party line. 

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16 hours ago, Sujo said:

So let me get this straight.


US asks kurds to fight isis. Kurds do it whilst losing 11,000 troops. US now says thanks for the help but your on your own now. Bye.


so now all isis is released and US is in more danger.


And all because of 50 US troups that were holding it together.


You do realise that returning 50 troops has started a genocide against a US ally that fights on behalf if at the same time 3000 extra troops are sent to Saudi.


please tell me how that helps US citizens.

There seems to be some debate about the kurds:



one guy says their the genocider and the other says their the genocidee

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17 hours ago, mtls2005 said:

Interesting missive from the president to Erdogan from last week...


"I'll call you later"? 





"You don't want to be responsible for . . . "

Intelligent people don't like to be told what their wants are.  You'd think someone would figure that out by the time they're 70 years old.  "I know it, and YOU know it" -- he's been using that one a lot lately when talking to the press.  Tell me what else I know, chief.

The Turks are not put off by having blood on their hands, and are quite proud of it. 


Maybe a little more history reading and less television, Donny.


Standing before arenas full of adoring fans who don't know a socialist from a social worker have accelerated his brain decay. 

He may have a new problem: his own party invoking the 25th Amendment

Childish name calling of domestic political opponents is one thing, toadying up to foreign strongmen and stunts like this is quite another.  You know the country is in bad shape when suddenly John Bolton is the wise man.  But they would have to move fast before Pence himself gets tossed out.

Imagine that, dueling impeachments!  Like the old song says "if the right one don't get ya then the left one will."



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On 10/16/2019 at 5:06 PM, englishoak said:


There is no single " who to blame" only various factors and viewpoints but yes Erdogan will 100% at some point cease fire as no war or conflict lasts forever. 

Well that didnt take long did it ? :whistling:

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