webfact Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Burnout: the curse of the modern worker By The Nation Dr Manus Potaporn Burnout Syndrome is taking its toll on Thais, according to Dr Manus Potaporn, the deputy director general of the Department of Medical Services, who defines it as an occupational phenomenon caused by stress in workplace that may lead to other mental problems such as depression, anxiety, tension headache or insomnia. “This syndrome is not a medical condition because it has been categorised as a ’factor that affects wellness’ in the International Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems 11th revision,” Manus said. Dr. Somboon Tosborvorn, director of Nopparatrajathanee Hospital, added that three symptoms are present in the syndrome: feeling exhausted, having a bad attitude about work and a noticeable decrease in working performance. “To counter the syndrome, try managing working time, taking a rest once in a while, or talking with your colleagues or boss if you feel distressed. You can also visit www.dms.moph.go.th for more information.” said Somboon. Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30377440 -- © Copyright The Nation Thailand 2019-10-16 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRToMRT Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 8 minutes ago, webfact said: feeling exhausted, having a bad attitude about work and a noticeable decrease in working performance. How do they think we all survived our own working lives. Need to tough up a bit. Life's tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiwrath Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 10 minutes ago, webfact said: feeling exhausted, having a bad attitude about work and a noticeable decrease in working performance. I don't think these symptoms are anything to do with a 'Burnout', but more of a negative attitude about the country's capability to move forward, and be beneficial to the average worker, with the people in power now, and for the foreseeable future ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko kok prong Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Trouble is in Thailand,there are very few Doctors to treat depression,anxiety,or mental health,maybe the govt should focus on this field. Giving out a heap of pills is not the anwser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 When you are obliged to work long hours for paltry wages to make ends meet, it is inevitable! They need to take a long, hard look at the distribution of wealth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 8 minutes ago, MRToMRT said: How do they think we all survived our own working lives. Need to tough up a bit. Life's tough. We survived on a decent salary, we were rewarded for our time and effort! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timendres Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Maybe it is political burnout reaching into every aspect of life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend49 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Thai workers and burnout ; are you serious? Maybe finger soreness from using FB on smart phones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitman Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Thailand can do the same amount of work with half the staff if they just learned how to work efficient. It's really astounding how inefficient they are compared to the West....there's so much to gain there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 3 hours ago, webfact said: may lead to other mental problems such as depression, anxiety, tension headache or insomnia If it can lead to paranoia too, I think I may know someone answering questions on a recent controversial speech that has this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HLover Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 46 minutes ago, fruitman said: Thailand can do the same amount of work with half the staff if they just learned how to work efficient. It's really astounding how inefficient they are compared to the West....there's so much to gain there. Apparently you've never had the pleasure of visiting a MVD office in certain Western countries. Amazing sluggish inefficient models of turds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaltsc Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 “To counter the syndrome, try managing working time, taking a rest once in a while, or talking with your colleagues..." In that case, there shouldn't be much, if any burnout syndrome in Thailand. Other than the mom and pop shops, It's all I can do to get a worker at a bank, store, etc., to get off their mobile phone, away from chatting with co-workers, or just plain ignoring that a customer needs some assistance, and have them help me. Then, if for some reason they do pay attention to me, they don't have the slightest idea what I am looking for, and (in the case of a store) I have to search for what I need by myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitman Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 5 hours ago, HLover said: Apparently you've never had the pleasure of visiting a MVD office in certain Western countries. Amazing sluggish inefficient models of turds. I guess not cause i have no idea what an mvd office is....can you also write it in normal english? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, fruitman said: Thailand can do the same amount of work with half the staff if they just learned how to work efficient. But then the other half would be unemployed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy cow cm Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 4 hours ago, MRToMRT said: How do they think we all survived our own working lives. Need to tough up a bit. Life's tough. Thailand totally overworks their staff and workers. If you think they get 2 days off a week, all holidays off and work only 8 hours a day then that is far off the mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 5 hours ago, webfact said: To counter the syndrome, try managing working time, taking a rest once in a while, or talking with your colleagues They do this already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitman Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 5 hours ago, Vacuum said: But then the other half would be unemployed. Yes but the first half can get a double salary....so they don't have to eat mama all day long. They won't have to use minivan's or baht buses which ruin the trafficflow... The unemployed half can find something usefull to do, cleaning the country for example... at least they won't walk in my way in the shops.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitman Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 5 hours ago, holy cow cm said: Thailand totally overworks their staff and workers. If you think they get 2 days off a week, all holidays off and work only 8 hours a day then that is far off the mark. The real heavy jobs are done by women.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy cow cm Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 12 minutes ago, fruitman said: The real heavy jobs are done by women.... I honestly don’t know how they do it. But I do know a lot who have burned out snd switched jobs in factory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitman Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 5 hours ago, holy cow cm said: I honestly don’t know how they do it. But I do know a lot who have burned out snd switched jobs in factory I bet it's the same in thai factories as everywhere else...they don't use/have proper tools, everything goes wrong all the time, uneducated staff, uninterested staff, bad environment, and so on. Thailand is so far behind the rest of the world and they also are very stubborn, won't learn anything from foreigners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 If I was working with the knowledge that when I retire, the government will give me a paltry 500 baht/month pension, I would feel singed too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy cow cm Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 14 minutes ago, fruitman said: I bet it's the same in thai factories as everywhere else...they don't use/have proper tools, everything goes wrong all the time, uneducated staff, uninterested staff, bad environment, and so on. Thailand is so far behind the rest of the world and they also are very stubborn, won't learn anything from foreigners. Most factory are up to par and the staff pretty well together. It’s just the work loads they put in them and the hours and days crashes a cold environment and underpaid for all those years they went to university. They really need to adjust to a 5 day a week 10 hour day and they would be so happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 'feeling exhausted, having a bad attitude about work and a noticeable decrease in working performance' Standard somchai, I guess they are burned out at birth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRToMRT Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 3 hours ago, holy cow cm said: Thailand totally overworks their staff and workers. If you think they get 2 days off a week, all holidays off and work only 8 hours a day then that is far off the mark. But thats not what he is saying, he is not pointing the finger at employers, he is advising employees to manage their lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadbury Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 I see hammock burnout and combined smartphone stress almost everywhere I go in the north. Prayut's promise of internet services for every village has proven to be another Pinocchio promise and is causing a lot stress in the farming villages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greeneking Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 4 hours ago, fruitman said: Thailand can do the same amount of work with half the staff if they just learned how to work efficient. It's really astounding how inefficient they are compared to the West....there's so much to gain there. Staff who do not fancy their work one day can walk out and get another job in the afternoon. No references asked for or given. Trained to do the next job and <deleted> off again next time it suits them. Wages are poor, quality of work sometimes does not deserve even this! Burn out of bosses I can sympathise with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greeneking Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Just now, greeneking said: Staff who do not fancy their work one day can walk out and get another job in the afternoon. No references asked for or given. Trained to do the next job and <deleted> off again next time it suits them. Wages are poor, quality of work sometimes does not deserve even this! Burn out of bosses I can sympathise with. I also think I should give another side. I know several delightful ladies who have been responsible, reliable and willing who have been passed over for promotion by bosses with relatives or new girlfriends. And have then been 'let go' at the age of 35 because they are too old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chazar Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 If they were talking Japanese then yes................Thais....dont make me laugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 On 10/16/2019 at 11:34 AM, Thaiwrath said: I don't think these symptoms are anything to do with a 'Burnout', but more of a negative attitude about the country's capability to move forward, and be beneficial to the average worker, with the people in power now, and for the foreseeable future ! MOVE FORWARD!? No <deleted> OFF!I am not going to move forward in fact I'm questioning what is forward and what is it that's there?I already know what's there "Burnout" for the workers and lots of money for those saying we must move forward! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketDog Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 On 10/16/2019 at 11:34 AM, Thaiwrath said: I don't think these symptoms are anything to do with a 'Burnout', but more of a negative attitude about the country's capability to move forward, and be beneficial to the average worker, with the people in power now, and for the foreseeable future ! Wait, I thought the article is about Thailand and here you go referencing the rest of the first world countries as well! You're correct of course on either count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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