digger70 1,472 #181 Posted October 17, 2019 1 minute ago, LivinLOS said: The problem is, as stated by those same insurers, is that they are tasked with designing a policy exclusively for retirees.. When the available pool of customers are all 'old codgers' then theres little room to spread the risk, and the policy will appear poor value. The policy doesn't have to specific for Old codgers they could offer a decent policy across the whole age group . They would get a good response from all the public. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deej 235 #182 Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Jingthing said: What are talking about? He's taking about announced enforcement policies at some offices. Not police orders. Sure you can try to protest an enforcement decision that you think conflicts with the official orders but there is no assurance of success doing that. That is why going forward we're going to have to hear lots of first hand reports from many offices to get a real feel for how this change is actually being enforced at the various offices. Sent from my Lenovo A7020a48 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app At this moment of time. It is purely speculation that Retirement Extensions will be subjected to any compulsory Health Insurance. That is what i.am talking about Get It ???? Edited October 17, 2019 by deej Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sheryl 23,459 #183 Posted October 17, 2019 Hello Anybody has a rough idea of the cost of those insurances ?? I pay an insurance in my home country and won t cancel it.. so I imagine I will have to go from here if this second insurance is expensive.. Another thing they don t point out is the fact that those insurances won t cover for a lot of preexisting pathologies.. so, what will they do against that as your major chances are to be in hospital for preexsiting pathologies.. for which the hospital won t get a cent from the insurance.. Have a nice evening..There is a thread in the Health Forum on this including a spreadsheet attachment summarizing the policies. Read whole thread as well, as some of these companies will also issue the certificate for policies they underwrite but which are manafed by companies not on tbe list. Generally speaking costs are higher than a foreign policy which has almost 10 times the cover but no or limited OPD. And contrary to what one might expect most will not enrol someone over age 65. Most also do not guarantee lifetime renewal. Sent from my SM-J701F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pib 13,239 #184 Posted October 17, 2019 58 minutes ago, Mango Bob said: I just called 1178 and was told that it does apply to anyone who enter Thailand on a o/a visa. I told them that it was 13 years ago. She put me on hold and talked to her boss and returned and told me that it applies to anyone who enter Thailand on an o/a visa. It sounds strange the person had to put you on hold to get an answer as I would think a LOT people have been calling with the same question...that is, I have an underlying OA from Christmas past and I'm on my X-extension of stay...does the new rule apply to me? You would think (hope) the reps at 1178 would have been given a definitive, scripted response to such a hot/emotional question. Also, there was another person who called 1178 yesterday (it was in a related thread) and given the answer it did "not" apply unless your OA was issued after 31 Oct 2109. So, who got the right answer...you or the other caller....or have things changed since yesterday? TIT 2 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mango Bob 6,500 #185 Posted October 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Pib said: It sounds strange the person had to put you on hold to get an answer as I would think a LOT people have been calling with the same question...that is, I have an underlying OA from Christmas past and I'm on my X-extension of stay...does the new rule apply to me? You would think (hope) the reps at 1178 would have been given a definitive, scripted response to such a hot/emotional question. Also, there was another person who called 1178 yesterday (it was in a related thread) and given the answer it did "not" apply unless your OA was issued after 31 Oct 2109. So, who got the right answer...you or the other caller....or have things changed since yesterday? TIT I asked the same thing. Why not call yourself the number is 1178. Maybe you will get the right answer that you want. I told them I been doing extensions of stays for 13 years. So I hope she realized it was before 31 Oct 19. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smedly 32,107 #186 Posted October 17, 2019 there a lot of posters on this thread rumour mongering and posting inaccuracies and generally blowing it out their a$$ - I have heard similar nonsense from barstool geniuses who also have no clue there is one police order and it clearly states O-A Visa obtained outside Thailand Those on 12 month extensions based on retirement are now required to retain a minimum Thai bank balance of bt400,000 for 12 months a year Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jingthing 62,639 #187 Posted October 17, 2019 At this moment of time. It is purely speculation that Retirement Extensions will be subjected to any compulsory Health Insurance. That is what i.am talking about Get It ????Not really but if you want to be in denial about some of the reports we've already heard about intended enforcement be my guest.Sent from my Lenovo A7020a48 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
madmen 8,534 #188 Posted October 17, 2019 1 minute ago, smedly said: there a lot of posters on this thread rumour mongering and posting inaccuracies and generally blowing it out their a$$ - I have heard similar nonsense from barstool geniuses who also have no clue Even when Joe lays down the facts there are the same handful of posters with countless what if scenarios, loving to spread the fear 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pattaya46 3,461 #189 Posted October 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, smedly said: // there is one police order and it clearly states O-A Visa obtained outside Thailand Where else could one get a Visa O-A ? 6 minutes ago, smedly said: // Those on 12 month extensions based on retirement are now required to retain a minimum Thai bank balance of bt400,000 for 12 months a year Inexact. It's just for one of several options. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
domdom 283 #190 Posted October 17, 2019 Hello I have seen on the link a certificate which can be signed by a foreign insurance BUT I imagine it is only to get the first OA visa, as the text states that for 1st year you can have a foreign insurance but no more for extension.. I think they found this idea to squeeze a little more retirees, forcing them to invest in local insurance companies.. Have a nice evening 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deej 235 #191 Posted October 17, 2019 8 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Not really but if you want to be in denial about some of the reports we've already heard about intended enforcement be my guest. Sent from my Lenovo A7020a48 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app No denial . just commonsense .due to One thread on this topic (reports)was correctly closed .due to mis information provided from the Opening Poster 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chiller 30 #192 Posted October 17, 2019 For anyone with an O-A Visa either worried about or against buying insurance, can they apply for an non-O Visa just before their actual O-A visa expires and then transfer the required amount of monies to then extend the non-O visa, based on either retirement or marriage? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lkv 3,388 #193 Posted October 17, 2019 22 minutes ago, Mango Bob said: the number is 1178 As if what people get told at 1178 is gospel. It's the same like in any other Thai call center, asking the same question to different people and getting different answers. Nobody has any clue. But hey, TIT...you know.... 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LivinLOS 5,526 #194 Posted October 17, 2019 25 minutes ago, smedly said: there a lot of posters on this thread rumour mongering and posting inaccuracies and generally blowing it out their a$$ - I have heard similar nonsense from barstool geniuses who also have no clue there is one police order and it clearly states O-A Visa obtained outside Thailand Those on 12 month extensions based on retirement are now required to retain a minimum Thai bank balance of bt400,000 for 12 months a year And yet actual on the ground evidence of this being applied to OA extensions is ignored. Precisely why I started the now closed Chiang Mai thread, it was proof of an immigration office doing what you say they can not do. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LivinLOS 5,526 #195 Posted October 17, 2019 22 minutes ago, madmen said: Even when Joe lays down the facts there are the same handful of posters with countless what if scenarios, loving to spread the fear I posted the video, of that which you say is just 'spreading fear'.. I dont agree with it, but to deny it happened is just that, denial.. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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