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3 hours ago, domdom said:

Hello

Anybody has a rough idea of the cost of those insurances ?? I pay an insurance in my home country and won t cancel it.. so I imagine I will have to go from here if this second insurance is expensive..

Another thing they don t point out is the fact that those insurances won t cover for a lot of preexisting pathologies.. so, what will they do against that as your major chances are to be in hospital for preexsiting pathologies.. for which the hospital won t get a cent from the insurance..

Have a nice evening..

for someone of my age, unaffordable. 

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At last .
The penny has dropped .
and you are now . agreeing 
that present Retirement Extensions are acceptable without Medical Insurances etc etc
until a Immgr Police Dept order  is  given   to the contrary 
 
 
 
You're playing games that don't interest me. Bye.

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4 minutes ago, lupin said:

You miss the point... the argument was that health insurance was required on the OA and NOT extensions because those extensions required money in thai bank.

The OX requires both the funds in thai bank and the insurance... so the idea that the extensions dont need insurance only because of money in thai bank is questionable.

The O-X visa is an extension ?

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Just now, Don Mega said:

The O-X visa is an extension ?

Of course not. forget it

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44 minutes ago, whitemouse said:

 

But then again, nothing here makes sense.

It makes peerfect sense if you are Thai.  The insurance  issue is a  pilot project to see what affect this policy has on numbers of O-A Visas issued; how it may or will not  reduce debt to hospitals and how the long stayers will respond.

 

The fact is it applies only to the O-A Visa which is issued in your home country- the Police Order in both Thai and English states applies only to holders of O-A Visa issued after 31 October 2019.

 

The powers that be may want to apply it to all extensions but as of 31 Oct 2019 it applies only to Non O-A.  

 

Various Immigration offices may initeially start to interpret the order as applying to all Non OA issued  in the past. This happened when the last police order was published re income and money in the bank issues but eventually was sorted.  I expect the same problems will occur.

 

If my extension was due soon- I would print out the new Police Order in English and Thai and annotate the Thai  sections that apply.  As  Sheryl and Ubon Joe have stated-  one can certainly question an errant IO- be polite and present evidence. If problems- ask for the Supervisor or Section Chief.  

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3 minutes ago, lupin said:

Of course not.

What are you dribbling about then ?

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I think all these stems from the fact that immigration has been too kind all these years in allowing foreigners to stay long term here in Thailand. They have tried to cater to many different circumstances, proof of funds overseas, embassy letters, monthly transfer of funds etc.
To keep it simple, they should have just insisted on a certain amount of funds to be brought into and kept in the country. Many other countries do it this way. The reason for having such funds in the country are to cover for emergencies and contingencies such as medical treatment, operations etc. If these funds were drawn upon, subsequent extensions of stay would require that they be topped up.
Of course, some posters will argue that this is not fair and so on and so forth. Well, it is also not fair that I, in all likelihood, will not be able to settle in your country either, even though I may be a model citizen with sufficient funds to have a comfortable life in most countries.


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31 minutes ago, lupin said:

I think for this point to hold any water... it'd have to be based on NON O and its sub class... not all other long stay extensions of other classes, just wanted to make that distinction.

For a marriage "extension of stay" the underlying visa just needs to be a "non-immigrant" (a.k.a., non) category visa....such as non-O, non-OA, Non-B, Non-ED, etc.   The O, OA, B, ED represents the category of non immigration visa

 

https://www.immigration.go.th/content/service_18

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2 minutes ago, Don Mega said:

What are you dribbling about then ?

For god sake... forget about extension then ok?

 

The argument being made was that the OA visa needed health insurance because it did not need any money held in a Thai bank.....

I dont think we can suggest that because the OX visa requires health insurance and ALSO money in thai bank.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, lupin said:

For god sake... forget about extension then ok?

 

The argument being made was that the OA visa needed health insurance because it did not need any money held in a Thai bank.....

I dont think we can suggest that because the OX visa requires health insurance and ALSO money in thai bank.

 

 

I thought the O-X has always needed money in the bank and health insurance.

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The way it looks now, agents may be useless, this time.

Look at last couple of years, everything is designed to get foreigners, especially Westerners out. 

The money in the bank, strictly enforced, before AND after extension is granted.

No more letters from Embassies accepted, notice how Embassies they selected happen to be of countries where most expats come from.

TM30, I live in Pattaya, going to Bangkok for a weekend requires me to visit Bangkok immigration. Regulation designed to harrass, no other possible reason.

Western tourist with valid visas denied entry, deported, using false reasons (lack of money). As if a Westerners does not have 500€ in a bank. Coincidentally, traveller is not allowed to use ATM, this is not toughtlessness, this is the intended effect, it is designed to kick Westerners out.

Anyone who believes this insurance requirement affects only O-A is kidding themselves. Thailand is culling the herd of Westerners, it is so obvious, how can anyone not see it?

If I’m not mistaken, Chonburi immigration does not require a TM30 report for out of province travel, only out of country.

On TV, we only hear of western tourists being denied entry. I don’t think Chinese, Korean, Japanese, Taiwanese, Vietnamese, Cambodian etc tourists are active in this forum.

Some westerners apparently don’t have €500 to their name. There is currently a thread about an overstayer. He and his mother combined don’t even have £800.

Finally, all nationalities face the same issues. You, as a Caucasian, are not as glorified as you like to think.

 

 

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