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3 minutes ago, Pib said:

- So, now that I have had the chance to set down with a supervisory level immigration officer at CW in the very section that processes extension application....the section that has given me 11 extensions of stay so far, I'm fully, 100% convinced the insurance requirement applies to OAs issued "before, on, or after 31 Oct 2019."   No grandfathering.   And I will need to get a Non-O before my current extension of stay expires in late 2020 in order to avoid the insurance requirement.  

 

Thanks for the extra effort and diligence, Pib!!! 

 

It's BAD news, but at least it's very good to get some confirmation from Chaengwattana, in addition to all the various similar reports that have been cropping up from the various outlying Immigration offices.

 

PS - How did you manage to get in to talk to the extensions officer and then the supervisor there, when you didn't have an extension matter for them to consider?

 

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9 minutes ago, Pib said:

- She said my only option to avoid the insurance requirement was to switch to a Non-O visa.  We talk for 5 or so minutes on the two ways to do that...either at a Thai embassy outside of Thailand or going the Exempt to Non O method within Thailand.  

 

I wonder what all this would mean for a prior O-A holder who's then switched to a marriage extension along the way?

 

I'm guessing they'd say same same for marriage extension or retirement extension holder today....so long as either of them date back go an O-A visa.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Pib said:

I simply got a queue number for the L section.  Yes, almost all people going to the L section is to apply for an extension but I went to ask questions.  And the L section officers were very accommodating on answering those questions.

 

I asked, because usually, the front desk officers who hand out the queue tickets seem to give at least a cursory look at your passport and want to see you have some version of the proper application documents.

 

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1 minute ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

I wonder what all this would mean for a prior O-A holder who's then switched to a marriage extension along the way?

 

I didn't ask....wish I had...seems a person always forgets to ask certain questions....that will need to be a question for another visit to CW by someone.   I will be going back in early Nov to pickup an Address Confirmation doc....I may ask then if it's not answered before by someone. 

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2 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

I asked, because usually, the front desk officers who hand out the queue tickets seem to give at least a cursory look at your passport and want to see you have some version of the proper application documents.

Yeap...I know.  I first asked a representative at the entrance Info Desk where you ask what forms to use, get forms to fill out, etc.  The reps said she did not know the answer and I would need to talk to the L section.  I then went to the queue counter...said I need to ask questions about the new insurance requirement....the rep gave me a queue number to the L section just like if I was apply for my annual extension of stay.

 

While waiting to talk to an L section officer, I walked around all of immigration...the entrance....all the different sections with extra emphasis on the L section looking for posters or anything announcing the new requirement. Looking everywhere except in the bathrooms. Nothing seen.  

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It's not "old news" when the quasi-official advice being dispensed from ThaiVisa continues to be that retirement extensions of stay from O-A visas won't be impacted at all.
Yes I noticed that too.

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2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Yes I noticed that too.

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And now, based on Pib's visit to CW above, that advice re retirement extensions stemming from past O-A visas pretty clearly is turning out to be wrong.... as many here had been sensing already.

 

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And now, based on Pib's visit to CW above, that advice re retirement extensions stemming from past O-A visas pretty clearly is turning out to be wrong.... as many here had been sensing already.
 
Yes but apparently the police order indicates differently.

Go figure!

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5 minutes ago, Pib said:

I first asked a representative at the entrance Info Desk where you ask what forms to use, get forms to fill out, etc.  The reps said she did not know the answer

 

The last time I had occasion to visit the "Non-Info Desk" at CW Immigration, I was trying to ask if they had an EN version of the marriage extension of stay requirements....

 

And between the student intern working there and then the uniformed Thai officer she passed me off to, they kept trying to give me a TM-7 form... Never got past that with them. They were HOPELESS!!!

 

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my biggest worry is that I am leaving the country for five days in mid November, what are the chances they don't let me in because of lack of insurance, could get ugly, I already have my re-entry permit
Coming in on a re-entry permit does not generate a new permission to stay so should not be an issue.

Where there is a question and conflicting policies is (1) making a new entry on a current OA visa issued prior to Oct 31 (thus getting a new 1 year permission to stay) and (2) getting an in-country extension of stay after having entered on a (now expired) OA visa, likewise leading to a new 1 year permission to stay.

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35 minutes ago, flexomike said:

my biggest worry is that I am leaving the country for five days in mid November, what are the chances they don't let me in because of lack of insurance, could get ugly, I already have my re-entry permit

On entry to the country it only applies to those that have gotten a OA visa since the new requirement went into effect.

Also you would not be entering with a valid OA visa, Just a re-entry permit for a extension extension of stay.

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21 hours ago, LivinLOS said:

with the single exception of the health insurance. It makes no sense to differentiate the 2. 

uhhh.......  what about the  "single exception"   ?     isn't that the point ?

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