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11 minutes ago, Tanoshi said:
27 minutes ago, Assurancetourix said:

I have never understood these different abreviations: O, O-A;
I do not know what they mean.

The basic difference is an 'O' type Visa only allows a 90 day entry.

The O-A Visa allows a 1 year entry.

 

OA > "Annual"

OX > "X = 10 years"

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10 minutes ago, john terry1001 said:

Can you not get a multi entry non O based on marriage from Savanakhet, or have they now stopped it?

Yes...

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22 hours ago, Sheryl said:

I don't know. Possibly refers to spouse and children who piggyback onto an extension of stay for retirement.

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Sheryl, what happened to post 278 that you wrote describing how things work in the Thai government. That was the best description I have ever seen and wanted to print it out and send to a friend but it was gone.  

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44 minutes ago, Assurancetourix said:

Hope you can explain me what I have exactly and if I need to buy an health insurance.

And have you extended that Non-Imm-O yet.... based on what?

If you have an extension based on marriage to a Thai, absolutely no worries.

If you have one based on being retired and over 50, very likely no worries, as you started with a Non-Imm-O.

There is even a school of thought that ALL extensions will be excluded from insurance requirements, irrespective of initial Visa on first Extension.

Rest easy.

 

 

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17 minutes ago, worgeordie said:

The wife of a friend,who has serious health problems,

panicked when my wife told her retirees may have to

get expensive insurance,(if they could).

 

So she was straight on the phone to Chiang Mai Immigration,

to get clarification, they told her OA visa holders have to have

insurance after the end of this month, and next year,other

retirees will also have to have insurance ! I don't know how

he could possible get cover,he's 73,had cover from BUPA,

but claimed a lot to get treatment for lung cancer,and treatment

on his eyes,I expect there are many more here,with families

that are in the same situation,over 70,existing conditions,

I wonder if the Government are sparing a thought for the likes

of them...........no i think not.

egards worgeordie

 

"So she was straight on the phone to Chiang Mai Immigration,

to get clarification, they told her OA visa holders have to have

insurance after the end of this month, and next year,other

retirees will also have to have insurance"

 

That's for sure and that's why making the jump from an O-A to an O is probably going to be a waste of time, it will be a temporary reprieve and nothing more.

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16 minutes ago, griffon2011 said:

Sheryl, what happened to post 278 that you wrote describing how things work in the Thai government. That was the best description I have ever seen and wanted to print it out and send to a friend but it was gone.  

The post number may have subsequently changed since this thread was closed then re-opened after several posts with dubious/incorrect info were deleted.

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7 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

If you have an extension based on marriage to a Thai, absolutely no worries.

Since 13 years I'm on that visa : " based on marriage to a thai "

 

I went out Thailand once to visit Laos on my MTBike ; I bought an Re-Entry Permit at Sakon Nakhon Immigration  for that .

 

Apart from this little trip to Laos I have never been out of Thailand

 

Thanks a lot to you and Tanoshi :jap:

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The policies list ages for acceptance of new members up to 80.. 
 
Someone posted that they can be extended up to 100 (not checked personally) can only imagine the costs of that tho.. Multi hundred k per annum I would think.
Thrte is a thread running in the Health Forum which goes into the details of these policies.

Most will not enrol people past age 65; some not even past 60.

Most will not provide lifetime renewal. Some do not guarantee renewal at all.

There are only 1 or 2 options for people over 70 and only 1 for people over 75.

However it remains unclear if policies from other than the companies listed can be accepted. If they can this will widen the options considerably and probably alliw most people with existing insurance to use the policies they already have (though they might have to upgrade to include OPD).





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It isn't in effect yet. Come October 31/November 1 actual cases will be reported on. 
Dealing with personal interpretations of an English translation of a Thai language document.
 
My personal belief is this is on the order of "grandfathering" in the insurance regulation. Face it. Factual that persons over the age of 65/70 will find it impossible to procure insurance from the companies listed. The companies all seem to reserve the right to cancel, or not insure "certain" individuals. If these regulations are applied across the board there will be collateral damage in the form of "uninsurable" persons who have established families and dependents. These persons will be forced to leave their families.
 
Again, my personal belief is the Thai Government intends to allow those who are already here to stay. And, I believe the Thai government will require "new" visa procurers to purchase and maintain insurance during their stay in Thailand.
 
Do not let your "permission to stay" expire.   
 
Permissions to stay are never for more than one year. When you extend it is a new permission to stay.

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35 minutes ago, saengd said:

"So she was straight on the phone to Chiang Mai Immigration,

to get clarification, they told her OA visa holders have to have

insurance after the end of this month, and next year,other

retirees will also have to have insurance"

 

That's for sure and that's why making the jump from an O-A to an O is probably going to be a waste of time, it will be a temporary reprieve and nothing more.

If your married to a Thai switch to an extension based on marriage, then your no longer classed as a retiree.

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14 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

I am really wondering where the immigration officers that say it applies to those on extensions are reading or getting their info.

Studied the memos in the police order announcement again and noted this in the first one in English.

 

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That appears to say it does not apply to a extension of stay for a OA visa entry.

 

may be, but in this case, I would like to read at the end of the sentence " without need to have a Thai insurance ", because here they don't speak of health insurance , they just say that we can stay in Thailand after oct 31 th 

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1 hour ago, Tanoshi said:

If your married to a Thai switch to an extension based on marriage, then your no longer classed as a retiree.

yes, but you are still a person of let's say 70-80 years old, same physical condition than a " retired": I am afraid ( I hope I am wrong ) that in the next years, every visa old people will be affected 

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3 hours ago, worgeordie said:

they told her OA visa holders have to have

insurance after the end of this month, and next year,other

retirees will also have to have insurance !

 

I guess you could interpret that comment, coming translated thru a Thai, in at least two different ways....

 

1. would be they're applying the O-A visas rule now, and then will start applying it to O-A origin extensions of stay based on retirement when those come up for annual renewal.

 

or

 

2. would they're applying the requirement to O-As and retirement extensions now, and have plans to expand the insurance requirement to other visa classes in the future.

 

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