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1 minute ago, onera1961 said:

If they create two classes fo extension (one based on O and another O-A), what prevents a person from changing to O class by leaving the country and entering on visa exempt and then changing to O class extensions subsequently? 

Or even changing class.. 

 

If you change from a marriage based extension to a retirement based extension.. Which retirement extension do you get ?? 

 

This is why there is logic in treating ALL retirement as one standard. Its incredibly messy to do it any other way. Best of course is not at all for extensions, as everyone said it would be. 

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2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

bad news for those with O-A base visas.

Get out of Thailand. Get a tourist visa (or visa exempt). Enter Thailand with a Tourist Visa (or visa exempt) and then convert to Non-O and extension eventually. Problem solved if they really want to create two classess based on Non-O and Non O-A

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4 minutes ago, onera1961 said:

If they create two classes fo extension (one based on O and another O-A), what prevents a person from changing to O class by leaving the country and entering on visa exempt and then changing to O class extensions subsequently? 

Nothing unless immigration creates new roadblocks to doing that.  

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3 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Are you saying the CM Immigration people are saying they plan to apply the insurance requirement to ALL retirement extensions from Oct. 31 onward, or ONLY retirement extensions from Oct. 31 onward that date back to original O-A visas?

 

This is where Star visa and Assist visa differ.. But I think its fair to say at this stage no one can be sure. 

I think its an incorrect implementation, and not how it was said it would be. I am just reporting what is being said on the ground and by agents. 

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Just now, onera1961 said:

Get out of Thailand. Get a tourist visa (or visa exempt). Enter Thailand with a Tourist Visa (or visa exempt) and then convert to Non-O and extension eventually. Problem solved if they really want to create two classess based on Non-O and Non O-A

For now OK unless this distinction people are so confident about between O and OA turns out sooner or later to be no distinction at all. 

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9 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

If you look at it objectively, they want people who live here to have health insurance. Then it shouldn't matter if it is a visa or extension.

I, like many here have insurance. And a good one with zillions of Baht cover. But I do not have 40,000 Baht IPD so I would not pass. Luckily I extended from a Non O so I do not think it will affect me.

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Just now, LivinLOS said:

This is where Star visa and Assist visa differ.. But I think its fair to say at this stage no one can be sure. 

I think its an incorrect implementation, and not how it was said it would be. I am just reporting what is being said on the ground and by agents. 

 

What I was trying to ask was, what version was your acquaintance giving based on his visit to CM Immigration and hearing their remarks -- not what the various visa agencies are saying.

 

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Just now, onera1961 said:

Get out of Thailand. Get a tourist visa (or visa exempt). Enter Thailand with a Tourist Visa (or visa exempt) and then convert to Non-O and extension eventually. Problem solved if they really want to create two classess based on Non-O and Non O-A

that is why I think there is a large risk in assuming that extensions based on retirement are not thought of as O-A. 

So many other classes convert to retirement, do we really think they will only apply it to one narrow situation. 

 

This is the insurance that everyone said wouldnt apply to extensions at all remember ?!?! 

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8 minutes ago, sfokevin said:

Here is what Assist Thai Visa has posted on their Facebook page...

https://www.facebook.com/assist.thai/

 

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Now a Cmai Visa Agent LOL

Who.s Next 

Btw i was at Cmai Imm  gr Dept today between 1.15  pm to 1.45 pm

Whilst. my Land Lady was updating my TM 30.

Saw no notices of any description relating to the Bunkum being served up on this Topic/ Thread

Relax members and visitors 

until its a official Immgr Dept order. in Black and White ( writing so to speak)

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Is there not dirt cheap insurance in Thailand, if one gets the minimums? 

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Pacific Cross is 70K for the 70 to 75 year age group, Viriyah charges 94k for the same group. It's not until age 76 that rates go into six digits, after which they climb pretty quickly. BUT perhaps another way to look at this is, 70K baht is only 1,850 Pounds per year, not a princely sum for a years health insurance.

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12 minutes ago, bkk6060 said:

So, gosh good luck to the over 70's who want to stay here.

How to get insurance then?

The agents will have a field day at much more expensive prices.

The insurance is there.. its just bad value / expensive. 

 

But the older folks, on a tight budget, maybe been here decades with few options ?? 

 

Hopefully it will be a narrow implementation but I am not betting my retirement on it. 

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