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I think the borders would be a bit chaotic for 2-3 weeks after No Deal and then everyone would adjust to the additional paperwork, rules etc. and things would return to normal.
 
We import from plenty of non EU countries with no trade deal in place with no issues at all.
 
Project Fear ramping up ahead of 31st [emoji42][emoji99].
Hard Brexiteers who do no research at all poo-poo those who do. Usual misdirection. Here, "I think..." = No idea at all.

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1 minute ago, transam said:

Moooooooooooore BS scare mongering.....

 

Can we have all the Brexit threads in one thread please.....

I would agree with that. 

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Good for the DUP saying No they realise that an ever closer customs union with the South would have made a United Ireland that much closer and any infrastructure would be a target for the New Ira and other assorted paramilitary/criminal malcontents. And make no mistake Boris realises the disaster that No Deal will bring so I have never been more optimistic that there will be No Brexit which was always the best option.  That ditch is ready Boris get ready to self-immolate in it - don't make promises that you can't keep. Didn't your parents teach you that. Nigel unleash the Brexit Dogs of War at the coming election......
 
 
I would be somewhat reluctant to cheer on the DUP for anything at any time.

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16 hours ago, Thongkorn said:

Project fear at its finest, . Anyone heard of Immingham , a port on the East Coast of the UK. One of the biggest and busiest in Europe, It can cope with double the capacity its handling now, There are more ports then Dover, believe it or not.

Project fear!  Always the same chant, day after day, week after week.  No point in trying to highlight problems that will be caused by Brexit when people are in such denial.

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2 minutes ago, SheungWan said:

I would be somewhat reluctant to cheer on the DUP for anything at any time.

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I agree with your sentiment but feel tactically if it stymies Johnson's promise then we have a greater chance of a remain coalition in the coming new parliament. Somewhat fanciful I know but we are all war weary and for nothing....

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Just now, dunroaming said:

Project fear!  Always the same chant, day after day, week after week.  No point in trying to highlight problems that will be caused by Brexit when people are in such denial.

One reason why you should never listen to the 'will of the people'. Only folk with an IQ of 100 or more should be allowed to vote .

 

 

 

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13 minutes ago, SheungWan said:

Hard Brexiteers who do no research at all poo-poo those who do. Usual misdirection. Here, "I think..." = No idea at all.

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Well, the boss of Calais port has said there will be very few problems. We import plenty of goods from non EU countries (with no trade deal) and have very few problems.

 

So tell me, how do you know (not think) that it's going to be a complete disaster? You don't. You're panicking and trying to convince everyone that you are right to panic. So yes, I "poo-poo" your Project Fear BS.

 

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17 hours ago, Thongkorn said:

Project fear at its finest, . Anyone heard of Immingham , a port on the East Coast of the UK. One of the biggest and busiest in Europe, It can cope with double the capacity its handling now, There are more ports then Dover, believe it or not.

The Port of Immingham, also known as Immingham Docks, is a major east coast port, located on the south bank of the Humber Estuary west of Grimsby, near the town of Immingham. In 2012, the Port of Immingham was the largest port in the United Kingdom by tonnage with 60 million tonnes of cargo passing through that year.[1]  With its Oil TerminalBulk Terminal for coal export and iron ore import; the Immingham Gas Jetty (1985) for LPG import; and the Humber International Terminal (2000, expanded 2006) for bulk cargos. Immingham Outer Harbour Roll-on/Roll-off terminals

So, BY FAR NOT sufficient for all incoming and outgoing lorries with merchandise. Not important to be the port with the highest flow of all goods, but that of goods so hard needed as consumer- and Industrial components goods.

 

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40 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

One reason why you should never listen to the 'will of the people'. Only folk with an IQ of 100 or more should be allowed to vote .

 

 

 

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If that's a fact, how on earth did you find the polling station.... Obviously not on your own....😳

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Nor does Dover!
 
 
 
 
(Its in Cheriton which is the other side of Folkestone!)



The article is on cross channel traffic and not just Dover. The mitigation plan Operation Brock, or Stack as it used to be, covers both locations.


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1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

I think the borders would be a bit chaotic for 2-3 weeks after No Deal and then everyone would adjust to the additional paperwork, rules etc. and things would return to normal.

 

We import from plenty of non EU countries with no trade deal in place with no issues at all.

 

Project Fear ramping up ahead of 31st 😴💤.

You forget there is some experience still from the times the UK was not a member yet, in the 60-s. Then not a fraction of the present in- en export to the EU had to pass the customs, on BOTH sides, with their paperwork, inspections, custom clearance etc.

The biggest of the two will NOT be the goods from the EU to the UK, but the opposite way: 1 Nov, 00:00:001 the customs set the marker for UK goods under "third countries", meaning: inspection, VAT, import duty under WTO-rules, waiting till all is done etc, while now: touch the gas pedal and move. All British ( NFS, BRC) certificates are no longer accepted, so a LOT of merchandise is in trouble.

Remind: about half comes and goes to the EU, mostly in lorries, via Dover. Just 14 days till disaster will strike.

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2 minutes ago, transam said:

If that's a fact, how on earth did you find the polling station.... Obviously not on your own....😳

Last time I was measured for a MRI Scan based research on brain patterns - I was 132 which puts me in the top 2% so I shall have to wear this burden by making decisions for my less gifted brethren. Maybe everybody gets a minimum of 1 vote and the more gifted multiple votes- I'll have 5 please. 

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2 hours ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Could you provide the citation for that quote please?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2019/08/11/no-deal-lorry-mayhem-dover-calais-cest-la-bullsh-replies-french/

 

"No-deal Brexit lorry chaos at Dover and Calais? 'C'est la bullsh**' replies French ports chief"

 

Unfortunately The Torygraph operates behind a paywall, so I have had to quote from the first paragraph of the report only.

 

I don't seem to be able to get the font down to the right size either - it's probably all Boris' fault!

 

 

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37 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

Last time I was measured for a MRI Scan based research on brain patterns - I was 132 which puts me in the top 2% so I shall have to wear this burden by making decisions for my less gifted brethren. Maybe everybody gets a minimum of 1 vote and the more gifted multiple votes- I'll have 5 please. 

I've never had a brain scan - but I am reasonably confident that I have a functioning model. I wouldn't like to venture a guess as to which percentage I fall into - although I am sure that there are some here who have views on the matter...

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