snoop1130 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Salty foods could face tax – but not your crisps By The Nation The Excise Department and Public Health Ministry are mulling a tax on salted foods to try and wean Thais away from sodium-heavy diets – but snacks and fish sauce would be exempted. Excise Department director general Patchara Anuntasilpa said on Wednesday (October 16) the tax would be based on the amount of salt content and a proposal would likely go to Finance Minister Uttama Savanayana by the end of the year. “If the tax is approved, we will allow entrepreneurs one or two years to reduce the salt content and launch a less-salty version of their product,” said Patchara. The tax would apply to frozen and canned foods and instant noodles, but not to snacks, fish and other seasoning sauce or dishes sold by street vendors. The World Health Organisation and United Nations have recommended taxes on foods with high salt content, noting that too much sodium in the diet can lead to kidney and heart disease, cancer and high blood pressure. Wisit Limluecha of the Federation of Thai Industries said it would cooperate with the government on all efforts to improve people’s health, but he would not want to see a tax on snacks, seasonings or instant and frozen foods. “Research has found that these foods represent only 20 per cent of what we eat each day, and everyone has different eating habits, so the better solution would be to advise consumers on how to eat healthily,” he said. He warned that the proposed tax would hurt Thai food’s competitiveness overseas as well as at home, where imports are readily available. Small-scale entrepreneurs with limited budgets would also suffer, he said, since adjusting ingredient formulas and changing the packaging cost a considerable amount of money. Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30377453 -- © Copyright The Nation Thailand 2019-10-16 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer90210 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Snacks exempted ?!!! Right????........Well, we all know high dosage of chips, popcorn and other processed snacks are good for the health after all ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesofa Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 43 minutes ago, snoop1130 said: Wisit Limluecha of the Federation of Thai Industries said it would cooperate with the government on all efforts to improve people’s health, but he would not want to see a tax on snacks, seasonings or instant and frozen foods Why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayaout Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 This is ridiculous and only about collecting tax. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/its-time-to-end-the-war-on-salt/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Bob Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 "tax on salted (or sweet) foods to try and wean Thais away from sodium-heavy (and sugary) diets." Complete b o ll ock s of course, as any such tax is imposed to steal more money. Same as tax on booze and smokes, the gov't doesn't give a toss about public health, just how to take money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenslegs Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 7 minutes ago, bluesofa said: Why not? Maybe he has shares in Lay's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anterian Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Please put a tax on garlic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Christmas13 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, anterian said: Please put a tax on garlic. And Durian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 500000% tax on MSG would be welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Tayaout said: This is ridiculous and only about collecting tax. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/its-time-to-end-the-war-on-salt/ Any idea what the usual daily sodium intake of Thais is? Westies have already succesfully lowered the levels, I remember the Karelia project IIRC in the 70's and early 80's that weened off people from eating mountains of salt. It was a success, death rates due to high blood pressure plummeted. But before the food was so salty it almost tasted as bad as Thai food with 5kg MSG per plate. https://www.helsinki.fi/en/news/nordic-welfare/north-karelia-project-an-unrepeatable-success-story-in-public-health Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fforest1 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Ban Salt, Ban Sugar, Ban Smoking, Ban Alcohol, Ban Cars, Ban Sex Ban Ban Ban how about Ban busy body bureaucrats... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stickyrice2000 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Is the government broke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerojero Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Yep. 100 billion spent on military toys for the 1300 Generals. Now no money for nothing (and chicks not for free). Is the government broke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayaout Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 4 hours ago, DrTuner said: Any idea what the usual daily sodium intake of Thais is? Westies have already succesfully lowered the levels, I remember the Karelia project IIRC in the 70's and early 80's that weened off people from eating mountains of salt. It was a success, death rates due to high blood pressure plummeted. But before the food was so salty it almost tasted as bad as Thai food with 5kg MSG per plate. https://www.helsinki.fi/en/news/nordic-welfare/north-karelia-project-an-unrepeatable-success-story-in-public-health It's almost impossible to eat too much salt. However I only eat sea salt, Celtic salt and pink salt. Not sure about table salt but it's probably not healthy since it has chemicals additive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 4 hours ago, stickyrice2000 said: Is the government broke? No, that only applies to 80% of the civilian population! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 8 hours ago, bluesofa said: Why not? They need to fatten up the population. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plachon Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 8 hours ago, observer90210 said: Snacks exempted ?!!! Right????........Well, we all know high dosage of chips, popcorn and other processed snacks are good for the health after all ???? Yes, the MSG, sugar, salt and myriad other chemical additives are all in there to boost your health and wellbeing. ???? Any attempt to lower their concentration in your favourite snack would knock years off your life for sure. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 5 hours ago, fforest1 said: Ban Salt, Ban Sugar, Ban Smoking, Ban Alcohol, Ban Cars, Ban Sex Ban Ban Ban how about Ban busy body bureaucrats... Who said anything about banning any of these things. well except you wanting to ban "Busy Body Bureaucrats" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neeray Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 5 hours ago, fforest1 said: Ban Salt, Ban Sugar, Ban Smoking, Ban Alcohol, Ban Cars, Ban Sex Ban Ban Ban how about Ban busy body bureaucrats... It's often said that many expats left their home country to escape "Nanny State-lifestyle". And now, what is Thailand becoming ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipButty Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Im all for banning MSG even when you ask them not to use it, they still do and I can say it in Thai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 12 hours ago, snoop1130 said: The World Health Organisation and United Nations have recommended taxes on foods with high salt content, noting that too much sodium in the diet can lead to kidney and heart disease, cancer and high blood pressure. Wait till they get to the multi-time fried chicken and bananas Thais seems to have for breakfast most day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 I just put a pince of salt in every beer. That keeps my sodium level in balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 4 hours ago, neeray said: It's often said that many expats left their home country to escape "Nanny State-lifestyle". And now, what is Thailand becoming ? Paranoid schizoids! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin case Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 anyone ever read on this site what fish sauce, oyster sauce and other thai typical <deleted> junk is ? msg, salt, sugar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 3 hours ago, justin case said: anyone ever read on this site what fish sauce, oyster sauce and other thai typical <deleted> junk is ? msg, salt, sugar They use those to get umami, savory and sweet tastes, in addition there are sour, bitter and astringent (it's the sour taste some candies have that makes you pucker up, acidic) and spicy. https://www.scienceofcooking.com/about_taste.htm And they use them in proportions that utterly destroy any finer flavor by covering it up. It's a hallmark of lousy ingredients and bad cook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckamuck Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 I think this government is developing a bit of tax addiction. Must need another submarine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 9 hours ago, Tayaout said: It's almost impossible to eat too much salt. However I only eat sea salt, Celtic salt and pink salt. Not sure about table salt but it's probably not healthy since it has chemicals additive. I think it was the combination of fatty foods and extremely salty dishes that did people in. Athletic lifestyle offsets and often needs other nutrients, rather than the country lifestyle they had in Karelia at the time. In any case, I do remember how my mom's cooking changed after people were made aware. Got a lot better. I'm more concerned about the taste of things than how healthy they are, to be honest. I like salty snacks but not salty mains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgdanson Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 9 hours ago, Tayaout said: It's almost impossible to eat too much salt. However I only eat sea salt, Celtic salt and pink salt. Not sure about table salt but it's probably not healthy since it has chemicals additive. Is NaCl not NaCl? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgdanson Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 minute ago, wgdanson said: Is NaCl not NaCl? Wherever it comes from, sea, Himalayas, Celtic, Chinese, Thai.....it's all the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayaout Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 37 minutes ago, wgdanson said: Wherever it comes from, sea, Himalayas, Celtic, Chinese, Thai.....it's all the same. Table salt is refined, has anti caking agent and usually iode too. The other salt I mentioned doesn't have anything added and contains trace minerals. But yeah NaCl is salt like H2O is water wether it comes from bottled water or the sewer. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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