sanemax Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, samran said: Sorry, forgot you were busy studying the alternative texts in great detail 555 As you were asking me what the DUP think, that suggests that you didnt even read the news and have no knowledge at all on the subject Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el torro Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, samran said: The little Englanders also fail to understand HM treasury’s approach to tariffs. Being the good orthodox economists they are, they abhor tariffs. Come brexit, without a trade deal, EU external tariffs will automatically go up against UK products. The immediate result will be a hit to national income as people on the continent will buy less UK products as they are now more expensive. So with brexit already taking a chunk of your income away, the last thing you want to do is make the goods and services you need to buy more expensive by slapping tariffs on top of them. You are contradicting yourself. In your first para. you state that HM treasury will not apply tarrifs - and then in your last para. state that the tarrifs applied will make goods and services more expensive. Make up your mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 9 minutes ago, el torro said: You are contradicting yourself. In your first para. you state that HM treasury will not apply tarrifs - and then in your last para. state that the tarrifs applied will make goods and services more expensive. Make up your mind. Huh? The post really was not that difficult to understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samran Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 9 minutes ago, el torro said: You are contradicting yourself. In your first para. you state that HM treasury will not apply tarrifs - and then in your last para. state that the tarrifs applied will make goods and services more expensive. Make up your mind. I haven’t contradicted myself at all. I’m explaining why tariffs on imports into the UK will be minimal. You’ve already getting less for your exports to Europe, so with less income why make what you need to buy from the rest of the world more expensive by slapping tariffs on them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samran Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, stevenl said: Huh? The post really was not that difficult to understand. Maybe I should have put it on the side of a red bus for mass consumption... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samran Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 22 minutes ago, sanemax said: As you were asking me what the DUP think, that suggests that you didnt even read the news and have no knowledge at all on the subject It was a rhetorical question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunroaming Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Wonder what the tone of the posts will be on Sunday? Champagne corks popping or tears in the beer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunroaming Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Merkel has now come out and said that an extension is inevitable if Johnson's deal is rejected by parliament. Won't that be fun ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawadee1947 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 2 hours ago, transam said: Oh...... then perhaps it is....????..... Well, last night I saw Moggy saying it was.. Then of course it is.... Moggy you can trust definetely. Well educated respectfull and honorable. Just a gold nugget in parliament ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Farage was none too impressed on GMB this morning: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el torro Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 49 minutes ago, samran said: The little Englanders also fail to understand HM treasury’s approach to tariffs. Being the good orthodox economists they are, they abhor tariffs. Come brexit, without a trade deal, EU external tariffs will automatically go up against UK products. The immediate result will be a hit to national income as people on the continent will buy less UK products as they are now more expensive. So with brexit already taking a chunk of your income away, the last thing you want to do is make the goods and services you need to buy more expensive by slapping tariffs on top of them. 39 minutes ago, el torro said: You are contradicting yourself. In your first para. you state that HM treasury will not apply tarrifs - and then in your last para. state that the tarrifs applied will make goods and services more expensive. Make up your mind. 27 minutes ago, samran said: I haven’t contradicted myself at all. I’m explaining why tariffs on imports into the UK will be minimal. You’ve already getting less for your exports to Europe, so with less income why make what you need to buy from the rest of the world more expensive by slapping tariffs on them? You are contradicting yourself, but I understand why you need to pretend otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunroaming Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 1 minute ago, evadgib said: Farage was none too impressed on GMB this morning: Waiting for the advert on ebay... "Political party for sale, easy to run as there are no members. Starting price £1.00 Apply to The Brexit Party at NFO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Just now, el torro said: You are contradicting yourself, but I understand why you need to pretend otherwise. No, he is not contradicting himself. Are you sure you're native English speaker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, el torro said: You are contradicting yourself, but I understand why you need to pretend otherwise. Exactly which contradiction are you imagining you saw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunroaming Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, el torro said: You are contradicting yourself, but I understand why you need to pretend otherwise. He really isn't contradicting himself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 38 minutes ago, samran said: I haven’t contradicted myself at all. I’m explaining why tariffs on imports into the UK will be minimal. You’ve already getting less for your exports to Europe, so with less income why make what you need to buy from the rest of the world more expensive by slapping tariffs on them? Tariffs are to protect local industries and to stop the flood of cheap foreign imports Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samran Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, stevenl said: No, he is not contradicting himself. Are you sure you're native English speaker? 3 minutes ago, Bluespunk said: Exactly which contradiction are you imagining you saw? 3 minutes ago, dunroaming said: He really isn't contradicting himself Thanks guys - but its pretty obvious that blue passports and bendy bananas trumps basic economic understanding.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el torro Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, stevenl said: No, he is not contradicting himself. Are you sure you're native English speaker? It seems very obvious to me that:- stating in one sentence "The little Englanders also fail to understand HM treasury’s approach to tariffs. Being the good orthodox economists they are, they abhor tariffs" And then later in the same post "So with brexit already taking a chunk of your income away, the last thing you want to do is make the goods and services you need to buy more expensive by slapping tariffs on top of them." is contradictory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samran Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Just now, sanemax said: Tariffs are to protect local industries and to stop the flood of cheap foreign imports And giving less choice, inferior products and pushing up prices for locals don't forget... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, el torro said: It seems very obvious to me that:- stating in one sentence "The little Englanders also fail to understand HM treasury’s approach to tariffs. Being the good orthodox economists they are, they abhor tariffs" And then later in the same post "So with brexit already taking a chunk of your income away, the last thing you want to do is make the goods and services you need to buy more expensive by slapping tariffs on top of them." is contradictory. Both paragraphs are saying 'you don't want tariffs'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samran Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 1 minute ago, el torro said: It seems very obvious to me that:- stating in one sentence "The little Englanders also fail to understand HM treasury’s approach to tariffs. Being the good orthodox economists they are, they abhor tariffs" And then later in the same post "So with brexit already taking a chunk of your income away, the last thing you want to do is make the goods and services you need to buy more expensive by slapping tariffs on top of them." is contradictory. No, that last paragraph explains one of the reasons Treasury will not want to put up tariffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el torro Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, samran said: Thanks guys - but its pretty obvious that blue passports and bendy bananas trumps basic economic understanding.... And we're immediately back to remainers resorting to insults..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samran Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, el torro said: And we're immediately back to remainers resorting to insults..... Its not an insult if it is true. A simple economic concept has been presented to you three times and you still don't get it. If the shoe fits... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunroaming Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Maybe we should all move on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el torro Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, samran said: No, that last paragraph explains one of the reasons Treasury will not want to put up tariffs. No. The first para. says "The little Englanders also fail to understand HM treasury’s approach to tariffs. Being the good orthodox economists they are, they abhor tariffs" clearly stating that HM Treasury has no interest in applying tariffs. The last para. states So with brexit already taking a chunk of your income away, the last thing you want to do is make the goods and services you need to buy more expensive by slapping tariffs on top of them." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 1 minute ago, el torro said: No. The first para. says "The little Englanders also fail to understand HM treasury’s approach to tariffs. Being the good orthodox economists they are, they abhor tariffs" clearly stating that HM Treasury has no interest in applying tariffs. The last para. states So with brexit already taking a chunk of your income away, the last thing you want to do is make the goods and services you need to buy more expensive by slapping tariffs on top of them." 'the last thing you want', so also there you don't want tariffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samran Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, el torro said: No. The first para. says "The little Englanders also fail to understand HM treasury’s approach to tariffs. Being the good orthodox economists they are, they abhor tariffs" clearly stating that HM Treasury has no interest in applying tariffs. The last para. states So with brexit already taking a chunk of your income away, the last thing you want to do is make the goods and services you need to buy more expensive by slapping tariffs on top of them." I'm genuinely being nice here: you need to stop digging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunroaming Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Moving on... "The Evening Standard can reveal that members of the European Research Group of hardline Eurosceptics are seeking advice from the Attorney General to support their view that if no trade deal is agreed with the EU by the end of 2020, Britain could switch by default from full EU rules to World Trade Organisation terms." Just when you thought.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samran Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, dunroaming said: Moving on... "The Evening Standard can reveal that members of the European Research Group of hardline Eurosceptics are seeking advice from the Attorney General to support their view that if no trade deal is agreed with the EU by the end of 2020, Britain could switch by default from full EU rules to World Trade Organisation terms." Just when you thought.... Careful what you wish for would be my only advice to the ERG.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el torro Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, samran said: I'm genuinely being nice here: you need to stop digging. Really? A post stating that the UK has no interest in applying tariffs, and then how the UK would apply tariffs that would harm the UK?? Clearly I'm 'missing something' here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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