oldhippy Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 The referendum was about Cameron trying to stay in power. The snap election was about May trying to stay in power, This deal is about Bojo trying to stay in power. Tories..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, oldhippy said: The referendum was about Cameron trying to stay in power. The snap election was about May trying to stay in power, This deal is about Bojo trying to stay in power. Tories..... It really wasnt , thats just your simplistic small minded ways of viewing situations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 Hopefully you soon will no longer have to worry, the thread will be over, you must find a thread where "hard" can fit in on near every post....I don't envy you...[emoji26]Yes. It will be hard.Sent from my SM-N935F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 Yes, I have noticed that as well , he only seems to be concerned about Brexiteers if they are "hard" , and he has no interest in Brexiteers if they are softYes. Focus on the nutters.Sent from my SM-N935F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 1 minute ago, SheungWan said: Yes. It will be hard. If its spotted as well, visit your G.P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 Correct.......A strange attitude....Everything other than fellow kamikaze pilots is strange for the Hard Brexit brigade.Sent from my SM-N935F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 What a load of tosh......Boris & Co. stood their ground and the couple of folk who run the EU folded.....Sounds like a split in the Hard Brexit ranks.Sent from my SM-N935F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyCarlton Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 1 minute ago, sanemax said: If its spotted as well, visit your G.P Is this more expert advice to SheungWan on the male penis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 I am completely confused now how many Brexiteers here are ready to speak for Boris and which are ready to speak against Boris.Sent from my SM-N935F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 1 minute ago, DannyCarlton said: Is this more expert advice to SheungWan on the male penis? Quite ambiguous TBH , we were talking about Hard Brexiteers with spotted dicks and how best to handle the situation . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, SheungWan said: I am completely confused now how many Brexiteers here are ready to speak for Boris and which are ready to speak against Boris. Sent from my SM-N935F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app We are "hard" guys and gals, as you well know and keep telling us.......????.....???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david555 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 1 hour ago, transam said: What a load of tosh......Boris & Co. stood their ground and the couple of folk who run the EU folded..... Well if this is the way U.K. or Boris or any next U.K. PM one "stands their ground" ….we E.U. like you keep doing that anytime further so we can " Fold " … as you call it ….. we love it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, david555 said: Well if this is the way U.K. or Boris or any next U.K. PM one "stands their ground" ….we E.U. like you keep doing that anytime further so we can " Fold " … as you call it ….. we love it Good for you, oh, when is Turkey joining you lot....? ????.......???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david555 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 9 minutes ago, transam said: Good for you, oh, when is Turkey joining you lot....? ????.......???? Don't worry …. whenever you should come back ….I am sure they are still not allowed in …. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melvinmelvin Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 re agreeing great new deal just heard a cut on the radio with Corbyn asking MPs to vote against this deal, which is bad for UK which is bad for UK workers which is bad for worker's rights and also probably bad for a whole lot of other things .. . ..' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, melvinmelvin said: re agreeing great new deal just heard a cut on the radio with Corbyn asking MPs to vote against this deal, which is bad for UK which is bad for UK workers which is bad for worker's rights and also probably bad for a whole lot of other things .. . ..' Of Course Corbyn will vote against it . hes the rebellions type that will always vote against Government proposals . Hes not the intelligent type to sit and discuss things and vote after thinking it through . Hes the type to stand there with his arms crossed and his fingers in his ears and shaking his head saying "I disagree and will vote against it" , whatevers on offer . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forethat Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 2 hours ago, tebee said: You can believe that if you want to delude yourself. But ask yourself this - this deal needs to be approved by all 27 member states. So how come they can all agree to this so quickly - because it's essentially identical to a deal already offered and agreed. If you think this is a new deal, what do you think the differences are between this and the first draft of the withdrawal agreement offered to TM in december 2017? The differences are significant. The biggest one is, in my opinion, not the removal of the backstop (which is fantastic), but the abolishment of any references to EU law and other international conventions which in May's deal had precedence over UK law. There there's this, as commented in the Belfast Telegraph: https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/republic-of-ireland/explainer-whats-the-difference-between-johnsons-brexit-deal-and-mays-deal-38610304.html Sections 3 & 4 in the revised Political Declaration: Quote 3. In that spirit, this declaration establishes the parameters of an ambitious, broad, deep and flexible partnership across trade and economic cooperation with a comprehensive and balanced Free Trade Agreement at its core, law enforcement and criminal justice, foreign policy, security and defence and wider areas of cooperation. Where the Parties consider it to be in their mutual interest during the negotiations, the future relationship may encompass areas of cooperation beyond those described in this political declaration. This relationship will be rooted in the values and interests that the Union and the United Kingdom share. These arise from their geography, history and ideals anchored in their common European heritage. The Union and the United Kingdom agree that prosperity and security are enhanced by embracing free and fair trade, defending individual rights and the rule of law, protecting workers, consumers and the environment, and standing together against threats to rights and values from without or within. 4. The future relationship will be based on a balance of rights and obligations, taking into account the principles of each Party. This balance must ensure the autonomy of the Union's decision making and be consistent with the Union's principles, in particular with respect to the integrity of the Single Market and the Customs Union and the indivisibility of the four freedoms. It must also ensure the sovereignty of the United Kingdom and the protection of its internal market, while respecting the result of the 2016 referendum including with regard to the development of its independent trade policy I think this is probably the best we'll ever get. The only other option as I see it is a No Deal or complete political mayhem. What about the level playing field? Annex 4 of the previous Protocol – which contained references to EU laws and international conventions that would apply to the whole of UK in what were called “level playing field” commitments – has now been removed. According to the House of Commons library report: “These were put in by the EU to limit the UK’s capacity to gain what it would see as an unfair advantage by lowering standards. “This was of particular concern due to the UK’s close geographical proximity to the EU, but also in the previous ‘backstop’ the UK would have been in a Single Customs Territory with the EU, and so the EU wouldn’t be able to use tariffs to compensate for competitive advantage.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingdong Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 1 hour ago, melvinmelvin said: re agreeing great new deal just heard a cut on the radio with Corbyn asking MPs to vote against this deal, which is bad for UK which is bad for UK workers which is bad for worker's rights and also probably bad for a whole lot of other things .. . ..' Bad for workers rights? Do they have any in the age of bogus self employment,zero hour contracts and the glut of migrant labour courtesy of freedom of movement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingdong Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 1 hour ago, sanemax said: Of Course Corbyn will vote against it . hes the rebellions type that will always vote against Government proposals . Hes not the intelligent type to sit and discuss things and vote after thinking it through . Hes the type to stand there with his arms crossed and his fingers in his ears and shaking his head saying "I disagree and will vote against it" , whatevers on offer . Is it a deal or mays regurgitated scheme? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melvinmelvin Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 1 hour ago, kingdong said: Bad for workers rights? Do they have any in the age of bogus self employment,zero hour contracts and the glut of migrant labour courtesy of freedom of movement? dunno, that is what came out of the radio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 Letwin amendment passed, thanks to DUP. Time to begin digging that ditch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david555 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 And the soap goes on ….Macron shall like this... https://news.sky.com/story/live-time-to-get-brexit-done-says-stephen-barclay-ahead-of-key-vote-on-pms-new-deal-11839200 Breaking LIVE: MPs back Brexit amendment that forces PM to request delay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, david555 said: And the soap goes on ….Macron shall like this... https://news.sky.com/story/live-time-to-get-brexit-done-says-stephen-barclay-ahead-of-key-vote-on-pms-new-deal-11839200 Breaking LIVE: MPs back Brexit amendment that forces PM to request delay All Johnson has to do is say he lied when he said he will not negotiate an extension, put it down as Johnson as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyCarlton Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: All Johnson has to do is say he lied when he said he will not negotiate an extension, put it down as Johnson as usual. The plan is for him to send the letter as required but will refuse to negotiate with the EU regarding the extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david555 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said: All Johnson has to do is say he lied when he said he will not negotiate an extension, put it down as Johnson as usual. Interventions in HOC asking to the speaker for measures to make him comply with the law ….. (watching further live (better than coronation street and promises also to take long ….) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david555 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 10 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said: The plan is for him to send the letter as required but will refuse to negotiate with the EU regarding the extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david555 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2019/oct/19/brexit-mps-vote-boris-johnson-deal-super-saturday-erg-tory-rebels-labour-live-news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 9 minutes ago, david555 said: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2019/oct/19/brexit-mps-vote-boris-johnson-deal-super-saturday-erg-tory-rebels-labour-live-news Yes please. Get it done, preferably with the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldhippy Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 8 minutes ago, stevenl said: Yes please. Get it done, preferably with the deal. No, no, no.... Boris and his Tories need some more humiliations first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 Quote COURT OF APPEAL REFUSES TO ALLOW THE DEFEND BREXIT CASE TO HAVE A HEARING Above are the images of the Order that I have just received, which disappointingly confirms that our case is not going to be allowed to have even a single hearing. (Apologies for the way it has reproduced on this blog!) The tone of the reasons for the Order is more reasonable than the previous two Orders that we have had in this case. I do however find it interesting that this Judge has come out with yet another set of inconsistent reasoning as to why our case would not succeed. In my view, as we have now had three different Judges, all of whom have given a different basis on which they are refusing the case. Speaker Bercow had a yet further different view. Between them they have vividly shown why this is a case that should have actually been properly heard. Proper legal argument should have been listened to, so that the Court could have come to a proper reasoned decision. That would have been the way that a Judicial Review decision would have been dealt with until very recently. Tilbrook latest Miller/Benn/Letwin get wall to wall coverage. This parallel case laughably gets 'White Supremacist'; having already been blackballed by (re)mainstream media. UK politics of late is an absolute disgrace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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