UK PM Johnson agrees 'great' new Brexit deal with EU

[transam 49,759]

2 minutes ago, samran said:

The difference is that Boris is now PM and May is not. Amazing how a turd can turn into gold so quickly.

Don't understand your post. Can you word it, so I can....

[BritManToo 44,455]

4 minutes ago, samran said:

The difference is that Boris is now PM and May is not. Amazing how a turd can turn into gold so quickly.

May was always a turd, and still is.

Edited October 18, 2019 by BritManToo

[baboon 19,721]

11 minutes ago, transam said:

Don't understand your post. Can you word it, so I can....

I think he is saying that May's deal was cack, but when presented by Johnson it is suddenly brilliant. 

[samran 11,863]

15 minutes ago, transam said:

Don't understand your post. Can you word it, so I can....

Not my job to explain if you can't keep up...

[sanemax 21,499]

1 minute ago, baboon said:

I think he is saying that May's deal was cack, but when presented by Johnson it is suddenly brilliant. 

Most probably that posters havent read both deals fully and dont know thew difference between Mays deal and Boris's deal and are just predictably making false  allegations of both deals being very similar

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1 minute ago, baboon said:

I think he is saying that May's deal was cack, but when presented by Johnson it is suddenly brilliant. 

Oh...... then perhaps it is.........

Well, last night I saw Moggy saying it was..

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1 minute ago, samran said:

Not my job to explain if you can't keep up...

Keeping up and understanding are two different things chap....

 

So what is your job...?

[samran 11,863]

4 minutes ago, sanemax said:

Most probably that posters havent read both deals fully and dont know thew difference between Mays deal and Boris's deal and are just predictably making false  allegations of both deals being very similar

So the DUP are unhappy about...?

[Forethat 2,515]

1 hour ago, tebee said:

The £33b point is trash. yes the EU will miss it, but not much. It's to be paid over 5 years so £6,5B per year . The EU 27s GDP is £16 Trillion per year.

 

So a rise in tax on that of 0.025% will replace the missing UK contributions 

If you read my post again you'll find that I expect the economic damage to be severe. A No Deal Brexit will have serious ramifications for both the UK and the EU, and you won't be able to solve that by allowing the EU to tax individual member states. 

The £33B is, as you point out, peanuts...wait until the French wine producers realise that they've been outbid by American, Chilean, Australian and New Zealand wineries...and the producers of vegetables...and fruit...and cars...on both sides.

[sanemax 21,499]

11 minutes ago, samran said:

So the DUP are unhappy about...?

I dont know , have a look on a news website to find out for yourself 

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41 minutes ago, puipuitom said:

Can somebody explain me the phantastic differences between the "traitor" May "surrender to the EU" deal and glorious and perfect alternative Brris the Liar comes uo with ? Except throwing the DUP under the bus ..

As far as I can see, the difference is that the EU/May deal was likely to leave the UK entirely unable to leave (and stop paying.....) the EU. (As the EU would have to agree any changes to the 'backstop' before the UK was allowed to leave.)

 

The EU/Boris deal means that the UK (apart from N.I.) leaves the EU at the end of 2020.

[tebee 5,063]

8 minutes ago, Forethat said:

If you read my post again you'll find that I expect the economic damage to be severe. A No Deal Brexit will have serious ramifications for both the UK and the EU, and you won't be able to solve that by allowing the EU to tax individual member states. 

The £33B is, as you point out, peanuts...wait until the French wine producers realise that they've been outbid by American, Chilean, Australian and New Zealand wineries...and the producers of vegetables...and fruit...and cars...on both sides.

Even if we leave the EU it will still be cheaper to buy from producers there, because of the cost of shipping half way round the world. The people who buy £28 a bottle St Emilion grand cru are not going to switch to a nice Chilean red because it's cheaper - it's the high value wine. where the real profit is.  

Simmerly how many BMW and Merc drivers are going to switch to Cadillacs? 

[puipuitom 2,823]

8 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Short memory?

 

As THIS looks like being the outcome of the Brexit, THIS is where 51,88% voted for ? ? This 48,11%.. is just a footnote in history ( English way) 

 

[samran 11,863]

52 minutes ago, sanemax said:

I dont know , have a look on a news website to find out for yourself 

Sorry, forgot you were busy studying the alternative texts in great detail 555

[samran 11,863]

41 minutes ago, tebee said:

Even if we leave the EU it will still be cheaper to buy from producers there, because of the cost of shipping half way round the world. The people who buy £28 a bottle St Emilion grand cru are not going to switch to a nice Chilean red because it's cheaper - it's the high value wine. where the real profit is.  

Simmerly how many BMW and Merc drivers are going to switch to Cadillacs? 

The little Englanders also fail to understand HM treasury’s approach to tariffs. Being the good orthodox economists they are, they abhor tariffs. 
 

Come brexit, without a trade deal, EU external tariffs will automatically go up against UK products. The immediate result will be a hit to national income as people on the continent will buy less UK products as they are now more expensive. 

 

So with brexit already taking a chunk of your income away, the last thing you want to do is make the goods and services you need to buy more expensive by slapping tariffs on top of them.