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5 minutes ago, bannork said:

If it fails in Parliament I expect a longer extension, a year or more. 

But to what end; Parliament back 11 months 3 weeks later with the latest tweak of May's deal having chased their tails for the rest of the time?

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But to what end; Parliament back 11 months 3 weeks later with the latest tweak of May's deal having chased their tails for the rest of the time?
Within the next 12 months likely to have had an election or referendum which possibly will change the maths.

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Actually, I haven't heard anything like that from his mouth. What he DID say was that "there will be no extension". And as you point out, he did this without references to any other heads of state. He simply decided to make the decision for them.
 
There you have it - the little grey dictatorship in a nutshell - the very reason Brexit must happen. 
Except there is likely to be an extension if Parliament votes down deal.

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I'm well aware of how it works and it's not in the interest of Europe seeing the UK leave. If it means another 20 extensions, then we will get them despite the rhetoric from Macron.
 
Nothing to do with interest other than not forcing exit.

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Do I? I am so pleased you make the occasional attempt to tell posters what they mean. Not to say surprised! Or perhaps not...
Some Hard Brexiteers are a little lost lately. Require assistance.

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🙄???

 

Heather Stewart and Larry Elliott in Washington

Fri 18 Oct 2019 22.30 BST

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/oct/18/pm-faces-brexit-extension-even-if-his-deal-is-passed

PM faces Brexit extension even if his deal is passed

Labour and former Tory MPs join in bid to force through extension with amendment on ‘super Saturday.

Boris Johnson’s plan to push through a Brexit deal on Saturday looks likely to be frustrated after an alliance of Labour and former Tory MPs united behind a plan to force a new extension.

After clinching a last-minute deal in Brussels on Thursday by agreeing to a customs border in the Irish Sea, the prime minister had hoped to frame the rare Saturday sitting of parliament as a dramatic “new deal or no deal” moment.But despite positive reactions from Bank of England governor Mark Carney and declarations of support from several Labour MPs, Johnson’s plans were rocked on Friday by a cross-party group led by Oliver Letwin and Hilary Benn.

The Conservative and Labour MPs will table an amendment allowing parliament to withhold its approval until the legislation to implement Brexit has passed.

 

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3 hours ago, SheungWan said:

Some Hard Brexiteers are a little lost lately. Require assistance.

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Lost, I don't think so....In fact if Brexit actually goes through, and after reading your posts on the subject, I think you are the one that will be lost and scrabbling around for assistance..........🥵............🤣

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3 hours ago, SheungWan said:

Except there is likely to be an extension if Parliament votes down deal.

Perhaps not...

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Article 51 - Coercion of a representative of a State

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The expression of a State's consent to be bound by a treaty which has been procured by the coercion of its representative through acts or threats directed against him shall be without any legal effect.

Article 51 - Coercion of a representative of a State

 

& If that doesn't work there's always the Civil Contingencies Act 2004 in reserve.

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I still struggle to make sense of EUs sudden change of will. It was only a week ago that Tusk and Juncker declared that there wasn't enough time for a new deal. And all of a sudden he's chin down on the podium with Boris who looks like he just robbed the bank and got away with it.

 

What happened?

 

If I may speculate, I THINK they know something we don't. And the only plausible explanation I can come up with is that EU are trying to save a couple of bucks from what will otherwise be a No Deal Brexit.

 

I wonder if what they already know is that an extension will be declined by at least one member state.

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in my humble opinion BJ does not have the slightest intention of having the deal passed/accepted by PM's.... he has something up his sleeve and wants to crash out with no deal

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11 hours ago, sanemax said:

This is a new deal, which hasnt yet been rejected once by the HoC .

EU has stated that there will be no more extensions , so, accept this deal or we shall be leaving without a deal

It's the sos with a limited revision, mainly w.r.t. the Irish backstop. 

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14 minutes ago, Forethat said:

I still struggle to make sense of EUs sudden change of will.

did you ever consider that may have been the other way around..... Blondie was desperate, he would sell his "relatives" for a quid

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9 hours ago, Forethat said:

Actually, I haven't heard anything like that from his mouth. What he DID say was that "there will be no extension". And as you point out, he did this without references to any other heads of state. He simply decided to make the decision for them.

 

There you have it - the little grey dictatorship in a nutshell - the very reason Brexit must happen. 

TV interview, he was happy.

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