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1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

You got things backwards,

It's the Thais that think we are here for them to cheat and exploit.

If I truly felt that way I would of departed long ago. Why would you stay in a country where you thought the people existed only to take advantage of you. I wouldn't be able to look at myself in the mirror for being so untrue to myself because just the knowledge of that precludes any real attempt at 'settling down'. I would be living a lie.   

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15 hours ago, balo said:

Listen , there are more than 10 000 retired expats right now only using agents and who do not have the 800k in the bank, and been doing so for many years, you would be surprised how many. 

Do you happen to have a source for that statistic?

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On 10/17/2019 at 10:51 PM, Lacessit said:

So let me put the question: How do YOU obtain your retirement extension, assuming you are in that category? If not, what makes you an expert on the topic?

Thought the question 'what agency do you work for/own" would be more appropriate :coffee1:

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On 10/17/2019 at 6:32 PM, SCOTT FITZGERSLD said:

i don't care if it's illegal or imoral. all i care about is if it will not

get ME into trouble.

Better make sure they do your corrupt extension at the office in your province then, otherwise it WILL get you in trouble. Some agents get them done elsewhere due to lower costs and easier to bribe at another office. You then turn up at your office and they want to know when you moved back and why no TM28.

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Nine pages of discussing legal or illegal Agents. The legit ones provide valuable service because they know the legal rules and make sure all the forms are accomplished by them and all the information is correctly entered. The legit ones are well known in the community and usually provide a host of other services including translation services, wills, etc. Have used the same one for four years now for retirement and marriage extensions. The girl in the office who handles all the marriage visas is the most organized and proficient people I've had the pleasure of working with, With arthritis and diabetic neuropathy  in my writing hand I could never had filled out all the forms, let alone being 20 K from immigration office. It was well worth the 7,000 I paid for their expertise and service.

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7 minutes ago, Danthai said:

The legit ones provide valuable service

The agents who get you a no funds required visa provide a valuable service also.

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10 hours ago, from the home of CC said:

If I truly felt that way I would of departed long ago. Why would you stay in a country where you thought the people existed only to take advantage of you. I wouldn't be able to look at myself in the mirror for being so untrue to myself because just the knowledge of that precludes any real attempt at 'settling down'. I would be living a lie.   

Maybe you are, and just haven't been able to accept it.

 

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I am a temporary/long-term/kinda permanent, but not really, citizen of the Kingdom.  

 

I don't delude myself into thinking otherwise. 

 

If, for example, the Thai Gov offered me some kind of more permanent residence, I might feel more "settled down", so to speak. 

 

 

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8 hours ago, Orton Rd said:

Better make sure they do your corrupt extension at the office in your province then, otherwise it WILL get you in trouble. Some agents get them done elsewhere due to lower costs and easier to bribe at another office. You then turn up at your office and they want to know when you moved back and why no TM28.

So what did you tell them? And why turn up at the office anyway?

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12 hours ago, Exploring Thailand said:

Do you happen to have a source for that statistic?

It's just an estimate, based on experience.
My mates in Pattaya and Bangkok , I know at least 15 retirees been using agents for many years, the latest reports I have are from September 2019.   
One popular agent in Pattaya alone do more than 500 visas in a year.

15-17k fees.  If you want his name you have to PM me. 

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15 hours ago, from the home of CC said:

If I truly felt that way I would of departed long ago. Why would you stay in a country where you thought the people existed only to take advantage of you. I wouldn't be able to look at myself in the mirror for being so untrue to myself because just the knowledge of that precludes any real attempt at 'settling down'. I would be living a lie.   

I am sorry to say I think you are missing seeing what is going on around you. It may not be as xenophobic as portrayed, but it is certainly going on. To the cash going over desks at immigration to the same in the police station and hand to hand in the streets. I have to say I was shocked how tourists are targeted here, where I am more familiar with countries giving them some leeway.

One learns to minimize it. I follow the rules, locals need not bother. 

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1 hour ago, balo said:

It's just an estimate, based on experience.
My mates in Pattaya and Bangkok , I know at least 15 retirees been using agents for many years, the latest reports I have are from September 2019.   
One popular agent in Pattaya alone do more than 500 visas in a year.

15-17k fees.  If you want his name you have to PM me. 

10 per week? Suggest that’s way short of the mark.I sat with a mate in a small agents office last week ,the phone rang constantly with inquiries for extensions and replies in the affirmative given freely in response . The insurance development will only increase their business IMO.

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17 hours ago, JeffreyTRax said:

I wouldn't worry... The retiree population is a low risk population in terms of the nations security.

Rubbish, the world's best passport faker was just raided not too long ago in Pattaya on a retirement visa with links to severe terrorism including the missing Malaysia Air flight. He's certainly one of the main reasons (pressure from Interpol) for everything to get stricter here. 

 

 

Whole docu about it: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/video-on-demand/undercover-asia/the-forgers-11201776

 

Low risk my ass... As if your age says anything about you. 

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This topic appears to of run its course since it is the same back and forth discussion as all the others about visa agents by mostly the same posters.

This topic now :mfr_closed1:

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