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It is no wonder that so many people in the past left Great Britain, for some other part of the planet, to have a better government if nothing else. Seeing this stumbling along in the English Parliament is embarrassing, and boring at the same time. Who ever is still stalling for any deal, where they get everything they want is just dreaming.  Get on with the thing already.

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Because for over 3 years "negotiations" were managed by Teresa May and her chosen Remainer cabinet and it took them that long to screw it up for the UK.
 
Boris inherited this steaming pile of bovine excretia and has had less than 3 months to deal with it. And he has tried despite Tory party MPs quitting, parliament hogtying him and that "nice" Gina Miller getting the courts onto him.
 
Teresa May must be laughing her socks off at this lot yet she is the main person to blame for it, and of course David Cameron who started it off knowing that at the referendum Remainers would win hands down. Har de har de har.
Poor Boris.

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3 hours ago, SheungWan said:

Isn't that nice. Impatience the uniting virtue.

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OK quoting myself here, but it's relevant.

 

 

 

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5 hours ago, Stargrazer9889 said:

It is no wonder that so many people in the past left Great Britain, for some other part of the planet, to have a better government if nothing else. Seeing this stumbling along in the English Parliament is embarrassing, and boring at the same time. Who ever is still stalling for any deal, where they get everything they want is just dreaming.  Get on with the thing already.

Geezer

As has been pointed out on these boards many times, there is, currently, no such thing as an English Parliament. 

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20 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The excuses where never religious and you are a fool if you think they are not still a matter of grave concern.

so any one who dose,nt  agree with you is a fool?you are a very rude person.

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On 10/17/2019 at 11:50 PM, saengd said:

Interesting that BoJo and Claude are now in synch and best chums, Claude says no extension will be possible if the current deal is voted down, it's the current deal or no-deal, which would you rather have.....paging Mr Hobson.

An extension request is inevitable what ever happens.

 

It will be reluctantly granted as long as it is for a purpose of tidying up loose ends or a binding referendum,

 

Boris will have to write that letter unless he resigns with immediate effect, do not think that has ever happened before, going to the Queen and saying I resign and naming a person for her to call, just who would that be? Javid? Raab? Patel? Gove?

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4 hours ago, Basil B said:

An extension request is inevitable what ever happens.

 

It will be reluctantly granted as long as it is for a purpose of tidying up loose ends or a binding referendum,

 

Boris will have to write that letter unless he resigns with immediate effect, do not think that has ever happened before, going to the Queen and saying I resign and naming a person for her to call, just who would that be? Javid? Raab? Patel? Gove?

I have posted 1 x UN convention and 1x act of Parliament that may yet render the surrender act obsolete. Whether I'm right or otherwise remains (no pun intended) to be seen.

HTH

 

 

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5 hours ago, kingdong said:

so any one who dose,nt  agree with you is a fool?you are a very rude person.

kingdong is not a fool - he will vote for the trotskyists......

He is a true defender of workers' rights and a sincere trade unionist.

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On 10/18/2019 at 12:17 PM, Baerboxer said:

 

I think you're totally out of touch with the wishes of the majority of people in Northern Ireland (and Eire for that matter where there is little appetite for unification).

 

You are assuming a false equivalence between people's views on Brexit and the UK.

Actually the Lord Ashcroft poll gave a result that said 51% of potential voters in Northern Ireland. support reunification while 49% are opposed. Since the margin of error will be greater than that it might still be that a small majority are against reunification. However, where the poll is really interesting is that shows the strongest opposition is amongst the oldest quintile 65 and older. Once you go below that the numbers progressively get higher in their tilt in favor of union with the south.

https://www.irishpost.com/news/series-lord-ashcroft-polls-northern-ireland-voters-show-majority-favour-irish-reunification-171239

As for the Eire:  

Two-thirds of Irish would vote for united Ireland, poll says

https://www.politico.eu/article/election-two-thirds-of-irish-would-vote-for-united-ireland/

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4 hours ago, oldhippy said:

kingdong is not a fool - he will vote for the trotskyists......

He is a true defender of workers' rights and a sincere trade unionist.

and old hippy is made of stern stuff,when he was an angry young man(many moons ago ) he actually signed a petition!

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22 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

Actually the Lord Ashcroft poll gave a result that said 51% of potential voters in Northern Ireland. support reunification while 49% are opposed.

 

For any vote to be passed, there needs to be a bigger majority, like 60 % in favour .

 51 -49 is too close to call ...............................

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