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Hi Guys,

I am due to renew my Non O visa this week and have a worry regarding TM30

 

I spent the odd night in BK in a hotel which my wife does not know about, and I want to know whether this will be flagged up when we are sitting in immigration and all the <deleted> hits the fan.

We live in Nonthaburi, so I am guessing that counts as a separate province. The time spent each time in hotel was only one night per time.

 

Anybody have experience of this?

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Register online via the app... then file via the app.... or get all the paperwork needed from wife and file TM30 yourself.

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This province thing doesn't matter. If you live in Bangkok and spend a night in a Bangkok hotel you are meant to do a TM30 when you return home. 

If you want to play around behind the Mrs back it's getting harder. (ohh errr)

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Just now, berybert said:

This province thing doesn't matter. If you live in Bangkok and spend a night in a Bangkok hotel you are meant to do a TM30 when you return home. 

If you want to play around behind the Mrs back it's getting harder. (ohh errr)

Do short time rooms do a TM30 report ?

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11 minutes ago, Don Mega said:

Do short time rooms do a TM30 report ?

If they didn't ask for his passport, no.

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4 minutes ago, Vacuum said:

If they didn't ask for his passport, no.

Thats what I figured.

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58 minutes ago, Don Mega said:

Do short time rooms do a TM30 report ?

How do we know it was a short time room. 

I expect he gave them his passport or else he wouldn't worry about a report being done.

 

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2 hours ago, Blue flare said:

I am due to renew my Non O visa this week and have a worry regarding TM30

It´s totally possible for you to do the TM30 all by yourself, if you have the paperwork. If you worry too much, do it before and pay the possible fine and then it will be out of your hair.

As a reminder, though. You are probably not worried about your TM30 and have questions about that. To me it seems that worry more about how to keep your wife in the dark, and are afraid that she might think that you are cheating on her. Absolutely nothing that I would think, as everybody need a room to sleep when they are tired. 😉

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Thanks for the advice guys.

 

Ok, it was not short time, it was a regular hotel room which I booked via Agoda and showed my passport there. 

 

The wife as house owner has done nothing to register for TM30 so thats why I am afraid it may come up when we visit immigration.

 

Has anybody been picked up regarding TM30 at the time of visa renewal?

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1 hour ago, Blue flare said:

Thanks for the advice guys.

 

Ok, it was not short time, it was a regular hotel room which I booked via Agoda and showed my passport there. 

 

The wife as house owner has done nothing to register for TM30 so thats why I am afraid it may come up when we visit immigration.

 

Has anybody been picked up regarding TM30 at the time of visa renewal?

If you're renewing a non o extension in bangkok, you will absolutely get pulled up and fined if your current TM30 (presumably submitted by the hotel) does not match your 90 day reporting or the address your trying to use to make the extension. Use the app to register the address now , then use the app to submit you stay. The alternative is to get all your wifes paperwork for house registration etc... and go to immigration yourself and file the TM30 (and extension) alone.

 

You and your wife "COULD" go stay in a hotel together now ... that would obfuscate the current TM30 altogether 🙂 ... you would still be fined for a TM30 that doesant match 90 reporting address and the address you're using to make the extension, but it would at least reflect your hotel stay with your wife

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Lupin, Thanks.

 

I am confused, I had around 6 hotel stays during the last six months with nothing being filed, because back then I knew nothing about TM30.

Are you saying if the wife and I stay at a hotel in the next few days then file a TM30 that wipes out all the previous?

 

If that is the case does it mean I will only be picked up on only my last hotel visit that I do not want my wife to know about?

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6 minutes ago, Blue flare said:

Lupin, Thanks.

 

I am confused, I had around 6 hotel stays during the last six months with nothing being filed, because back then I knew nothing about TM30.

Are you saying if the wife and I stay at a hotel in the next few days then file a TM30 that wipes out all the previous?

 

If that is the case does it mean I will only be picked up on only my last hotel visit that I do not want my wife to know about?

If your wife or you have never filed a TM30, the only one that matters is going to the last one you do.... since thats going to be a hotel that you are both staying in... it will also be in contradiction to what you put on the application for extension (or any 90 day reporting you've done)

 

At that point, the IO will get your wife to fillout and file another TM30 (because you cannot do the extension without a valid TM30 that matches the extension application)... with her ID card and house reg etc.. (make sure she takes them)... , you should also ask for a a login or an account to be created to do this yourself online for any future "excursions" so you can enter your details when you get back "home"

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So, are you saying that my last hotel visit showed me residing there, and as no TM30 was filed showing me returning home, then that will be the issue?

So could I file a TM30 for that visit now?

 

When I did my last 90 day report about six weeks ago nothing was said then, it showed my home address....

 

You are helping Lupin, but boy I am still confused about all this!

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13 minutes ago, Blue flare said:

So, are you saying that my last hotel visit showed me residing there, and as no TM30 was filed showing me returning home, then that will be the issue?

So could I file a TM30 for that visit now?

 

When I did my last 90 day report about six weeks ago nothing was said then, it showed my home address....

 

You are helping Lupin, but boy I am still confused about all this!

To answer your initial question... yes, you could go and file the TM30 now with all the needed docs (but this all requires your wifes house reg/her ID card etc... which means you'll need to get all that from her to do it yourself... otherwise your back as square one if she goes with you)

 

The alternative is to register the address online with the docs and file the TM30 online before going to do your extension....

 

 

If you DO go to immigration with the wife though...

 

At Bangkok immigration, when you do an extension, you need a valid TM30 and 90 day report that matches your existing address (the address you're using to make the extension)

(Bangkok immigration dont currently require you to have a matching TM30 when doing 90 day reporting, which is why you were not pulled up for it 6 weeks ago when you went to do your 90 day report.... you will most certainly be pulled up for it when you do your extension of a non o)

 

To get your extension, you are going to need to have a valid TM30 on file that has your current address (the same one as the application for extension) ... since you dont have that, your wife will be asked to submit house reg/ thai ID card etc.. to register the address and file your TM30

 

So right now, you have a TM30 on file from a hotel that you dont want to risk becoming known to your wife.... so if you wife is going to need to register your current address to do the TM30, the easiest way to negate the fallout of the immigration officer saying, "oh I see you already have a TM30 on file from  - girls do me happy-time hotel -"  is for you and your wife to go to a hotel (one that submits a TM30) so the immigration officer instead says "oh I see you already have a TM30 on file from - nothing going on here coz I'm with my wife hotel- "

 

You'll then have TM30 filed with your address that your wife has registered... at the same time I would ask the IO to create a login with those house reg details so YOU can then file any TM30s when you get back from any other hotel visits in future.

 

 

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