webfact Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 THAI to cancel 6 routes to 4 Asean countries By THE NATION Sumeth Damrongchaitham, President of Thai Airways International (THAI), said on Monday that THAI is looking into the shutting down of six flight routes to 4 Indochinese countries, namely Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam and Myanmar. These routes, which all emanate from Bangkok’s Suvarnabhumi Airport, are to Vientiane, Luang Prabang, Phnom Penh, Hanoi, Ho Chi Minh and Yangon. “These routes are all covered by a small number of flights and have low customer capacity,” he said. “Once the cancellation plan is finalised, THAI will assign Thai Smile Airways to cover these routes instead.” Sumeth Damrongchaitham Sumeth further explained that competition had become fiercer, with every airline dropping prices to stay ahead of its rivals. “THAI needs to adjust our strategies too to preserve our reservation rate. We will focus on rolling out promotional campaigns until year end.” “However, next year’s strategy remains to be seen. Our prices this year have been reduced to a record low and if this strategy doesn’t work, we may take a different direction, such as seeking more partners for organisation tickets, increasing online channels, or giving privileges to frequent fliers,” he added. Related News: THAI needs to modify its rehabilitation plan to survive: SumetTHAI relaunches Bangkok –Sendai flights THAI resumes regular flights as Narita reopens Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30377594 -- © Copyright The Nation Thailand 2019-10-21 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tracker1 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Thai and Thai Smile same same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 15 minutes ago, webfact said: Our prices this year have been reduced to a record low With respect, your low may not be as low as other airlines low - and that's a problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RotBenz8888 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 24 minutes ago, webfact said: or giving privileges to frequent fliers and stop giving privileges to the senior executives? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wreckingcountry Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 “Adjust our strategy” or “make a different direction “. That will solve it NOT! What about the vocabulary “ Reform, complete overhaul,new leadership “ ? Never in a million years Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafniusDuckus Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 nope, there is only one strategy that will work: put a LARGE broom through the emmigration department. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelseafan Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 3 hours ago, RotBenz8888 said: and stop giving privileges to the senior executives? It's not just senior executives, it's government employees, government employees families, monks all travelling first class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burma Bill Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Quote:- "have low customer capacity" Oh really! I have recently flown from Khon Kaen with Thai Air Asia on "Fly-Thru" flights to/from Phnom Penh and Yangon. They were almost FULL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 8 hours ago, webfact said: we may take a different direction Find a buyer to take THAI 100% private and get the Thai taxpayer out of this long-running financial disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P Funk Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Tick tick tick..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moti24 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 11 hours ago, webfact said: THAI is looking into the shutting down of six flight routes to 4 Indochinese countries, namely Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam and Myanmar. Nice way to treat your neighbours! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 11 hours ago, webfact said: “However, next year’s strategy remains to be seen. Our prices this year have been reduced to a record low and if this strategy doesn’t work, we may take a different direction, such as seeking more partners for organisation tickets, increasing online channels, or giving privileges to frequent fliers,” he added. The other option is to cop an even bigger loss next year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new2here Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 10 hours ago, tracker1 said: Thai and Thai Smile same same To be fair I think there is a pretty big difference. If Thai (TG) runs it, they’ll have to use an A330 which is configured for just under 300 total seat count (they have a few different cabin configurations within the A333 fleet) and each having about 3 dozen C-cabin seats as well. by contrast, Thai Smile (WE) runs it using an A322 which is essentially an all-Y configuration. So... I think that TG is correct in two pints... that those sectors do not: a) have enough demand to consistently create a high enough load factor and b) have enough demand for paid C-cabin volume to justify the use of a 2-cabin model while the ultimate ownership of TG and WE are essentially from the same source, the two do have quite different cost structures. For example the operating crew for WE and TG are on different pay scales and work rules. i really think that Thai and Thai smile really needs to be set up much like how SQ and MI (Silk) are arranged— that to me makes sense and I think better matches against what is the local competition for short haul/regional flying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 11 hours ago, webfact said: or giving privileges to frequent fliers,” he added. Privileges to frequent fliers is one thing... free flights to connected people is costing you dearly ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phkauf Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Finally something at TG that makes sense. From BKK/DMK you can get a flight to Saigon or Hanoi for well under $100 by multiple carriers and TG is $250. There is no way they can compete on those routes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf81 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Moti24 said: Nice way to treat your neighbours! From the article it seams the flights aren't really shut down. Instead they'll be handled by Thai SMILE which, I guess, can provide the flights at lower prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jblowe Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Very simple International (not Thai) Airline cost projection. Cost per seat mile. Call it whatever you want, this is how the industry evaluates its productivity. EVERY other major Asia flag carrier has gone through some sort of reorganization to adjust it's operating budget to complete with the new LLC's. That is with the exception of the Royal Carrier with the Purple tail. They have white-washed concepts and balance sheets, but fail to deal with their "seat cost per mile or klick", call it what you want. Should they ever bring their seat mile cost to compete with other carriers, they will have to start with all three of the major expenses. Fleet hulls, Fuel and labor expense. Yes that includes the "white letter" funds and mismanaged labor schedules. However, I believe the internal corruption is so ripe that it they won't stem the loses until the Government closes the bank vault. That may never happen, even though productive carriers are pushing them aside. I would guess that many carriers are competing for the BKK/DKM/CNX/PHK gates that TAT is holding for the Purple boys, albeit at a loss of income. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solinvictus Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 15 hours ago, RotBenz8888 said: and stop giving privileges to the senior executives? TIT na If you no like, you can home loy. 5555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redline Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Bring in an experienced foreigner to straighten it out-problem solved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldhippy Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, Redline said: Bring in an experienced foreigner to straighten it out-problem solved I hear some Thomas Cook managers are available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fex Bluse Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Redline said: Bring in an experienced foreigner to straighten it out-problem solved Just like Japanese civilians jumping off cliffs during the Yank landings on the Japanese mainland during WW2, bringing a foreigner in would have millions committing suicide here at the loss of face. They just cannot cope with the idea that a foreigner can outdo them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shy coconut Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 2 hours ago, oldhippy said: I hear some Thomas Cook managers are available. Thomas Cook airline was a successful operation, so your comment isn't as ridiculous/hilarious as reactions to it imply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malt25 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 13 hours ago, Srikcir said: Find a buyer to take THAI 100% private and get the Thai taxpayer out of this long-running financial disaster. And where do you think they might find a buyer ? Ain't gunna happen ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallangpakwan Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 As my annual biz class ticket on THAI went from $4500 to $5500 this year (two years back $3800) I moved to pig class but after my return flt next week it's goodbye THAI after 40 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy cow cm Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 On 10/21/2019 at 8:29 AM, tracker1 said: Thai and Thai Smile same same No they are definitely not and I do not like flying Thai Smile. Thai Smile uses smaller cramped airplanes and the service is different. But they do have hotter stewardesses than Thai airways older baggage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Muton Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 3 hours ago, shy coconut said: Thomas Cook airline was a successful operation, so your comment isn't as ridiculous/hilarious as reactions to it imply. It's hard not to be extremely profitable when you hold a monopoly in parts of your business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkside Gray Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 I fly the bkk'- hcmc route queit regually and it is always full both ways . Never on time but full. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldhippy Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 8 hours ago, shy coconut said: Thomas Cook airline was a successful operation, so your comment isn't as ridiculous/hilarious as reactions to it imply. 4 hours ago, Blue Muton said: It's hard not to be extremely profitable when you hold a monopoly in parts of your business. Tell me again, how much debt TC accumulated? What Thais can do, the British can do better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natway09 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Should have been done 10 years ago. Any flight under 2 hours Thai International should give to Smile so they can concentrate on the longer haul quality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Muton Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 1 hour ago, oldhippy said: Tell me again, how much debt TC accumulated? What Thais can do, the British can do better! 10 hours ago, shy coconut said: Thomas Cook airline was a successful operation, so your comment isn't as ridiculous/hilarious as reactions to it imply. 6 hours ago, Blue Muton said: It's hard not to be extremely profitable when you hold a monopoly in parts of your business. Just to be clear, I was refering to the monopolies that TC held, not to Thai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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