webfact Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Hazardous Substance Committee agrees to ban 3 toxic pesticides By THE NATION Twenty-six members of the Hazardous Substance Committee have reached a verdict to approve a planned ban on three toxic pesticides – Paraquat, Chlorpyrifos and Glyphosate – which are widely used in agriculture, Deputy Prime Minister and Public Health Minister Anutin Charnvirakul posted on his personal Facebook page on Tuesday. Here’s the voting results: Paraquat – 21 votes for a ban, 5 votes for a limit on usage; Chlorpyrifos – 22 votes for a ban, 4 votes for a limit on usage; Glyphosate – 19 votes for a ban, 7 votes for a limit on usage. Anutin thanked “every party which supports the banning of the three pesticides” and “congratulated Thais for having government officials and academics who have ethics and integrity”. Related Story: Anutin vows to resign if the bill banning 3 pesticides fails Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30377644 -- © Copyright The Nation Thailand 2019-10-22 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy John Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 So, they have reasonably priced alternative products to replace those 3??? No! Not yet, just as I Though! When exactly will the reasonably priced alternatives be announced? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tracker1 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Planned ban ? so where does it go to from here ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somo Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, tracker1 said: Planned ban ? so where does it go to from here ? Nowhere, hopefully. Without weedkillers crops will die, simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thian Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 5 hours ago, somo said: Nowhere, hopefully. Without weedkillers crops will die, simple as that. which crops will die? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweatalot Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Very good to get rid of the poison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, sweatalot said: Very good to get rid of the poison probably already too late, for many a farmer and wife.. as they head to the bar for a Last Supper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckamuck Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 I am certain this will drag out and eventually be reduced to restrictions on usage. It's mad to ban Glyphosate. Used properly it is a huge labor saver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmerjo Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 I would not read to much into this article,wait for a more detailed report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 30 minutes ago, canuckamuck said: I am certain this will drag out and eventually be reduced to restrictions on usage. It's mad to ban Glyphosate. Used properly it is a huge labor saver. Most likely a limited ban with restriction guidelines, certification and banned in certain highly populated cities. This will ensure all get something and Anutin need not resign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tracker1 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Thian said: which crops will die? you seen how quick the vegetation takes over ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thian Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 5 hours ago, tracker1 said: you seen how quick the vegetation takes over ? No, depends of what and how you're growing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmerjo Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 58 minutes ago, Eric Loh said: Most likely a limited ban with restriction guidelines, certification and banned in certain highly populated cities. This will ensure all get something and Anutin need not resign. That would be the best solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fforest1 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 58 minutes ago, tracker1 said: you seen how quick the vegetation takes over ? Yes I have seen it with my own eyes..... They were working and completely cleared the lot behind my condo....Bare earth......With in months a very healthy knee high crop of weeds had grown back ......With in 6 months the weeds were waist high with some rapidly growing shrubs.....After 2 years you cant even see the ground any more and the the shrubs are about 10 feet tall now..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMac Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 HomePro, Watsadu and alikes do already not sell this <deleted> anymore. You can of course still find it in the garden markets or online (Shopee, Lazada...). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fforest1 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, MadMac said: HomePro, Watsadu and alikes do already not sell this <deleted> anymore. You can of course still find it in the garden markets or online (Shopee, Lazada...). I guess we really dont need farmers.....Food comes from the grocery store any ways... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmerjo Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 23 minutes ago, fforest1 said: I guess we really dont need farmers.....Food comes from the grocery store any ways... That's the funny thing,everybody will be rushing to the grocery store tomorrow expecting a full line of organic produce. Only to find Mananya has ballsed this up,she should of started with the chemicals used in crop with withholding periods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted October 22, 2019 Author Share Posted October 22, 2019 Three controversial farm chemicals to be banned from December 1st The National Hazardous Substances Committee (NHSC) has agreed, by majority votes, to ban the import, sale and use of paraquat, glyphosate and chlorpyrifos in Thailand from December 1st. The Committee voted as follows: Paraquat: 21 votes to ban vs 5 votes to restrict. Chlorpyrifos: 22 votes to ban vs 4 votes to restrict. Glyphosate: 19 votes to ban vs 7 votes to restrict. Deputy Prime Minister and Public Health Minister Anutin Charnvirakul, a vocal supporter of a complete ban, hailed the NHSC’s resolution, saying that the “heroic act” of the committee will be inscribed in the history of Thailand and maintained that the fate of the three chemicals was not a political issue and his Bhumjaithai party did not politicize the issue for its own benefit. As of December 1st, he said possession of any of the three substances will be illegal. 26 of the 29 members of the NHSC attended the meeting, chaired by Mr. Panuwat Duriyangkurasri, acting on behalf of the committee chairman who, along with two other committee members, opted out of vote due to concerns over possible conflicts of interest arising from their close connections with the chemical industry. Full story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/three-controversial-farm-chemicals-to-be-banned-from-december-1st/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2019-10-23 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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farmerjo Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 The Department of Agricultural Techniques will draft a ministerial regulation following the NHSC’s decision and will hold public hearings to gauge the views of all stakeholders before submitting a report to the NHSC for consideration. The department has also been tasked with managing the inventories of the three herbicides in the possession of the traders in a way which will limit impacts on the traders and farmers who may still need the substances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehs818 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 I watched a show just yesterday and Al Jazeera English about Agricultural Pesticides. Just another American industry that cares more about profit than the effect these products have on humans. It gets into the food chain and while some effects are yet unknown, others are clearly detrimental to the health of many in '3rd world countries'. The main concern of the show was the fact that while those chemicals are exported to other countries, they are banned from use in the USA. But those same countries exported to use them on crops which are then imported by the USA for consumption. Idiots! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oziex1 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 15 hours ago, tracker1 said: Planned ban ? so where does it go to from here ? Business as usual, I would expect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanrchase Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 How will the possibly thousands of litres of these chemicals that are already distributed arround Thailand be disposed of? Poured into the nearest river? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topt Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 7 minutes ago, Oziex1 said: Business as usual, I would expect. Probably as there could still be a legal challenge - from the linked article - Quote Meanwhile, the Rak Mae Klong group, which opposes the complete ban, has threatened to lodge a petition with the Administrative Court, demanding an injunction from the court to suspend the December 1st enforcement of the ban. Leader of the group, Mrs. Anchulee Lam-amnuayporn, said that they will go to the Administrative Court on October 28th. I would have thought there would be much more than 5 weeks stock in the supply chain as well........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayaout Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 1 minute ago, alanrchase said: How will the possibly thousands of litres of these chemicals that are already distributed arround Thailand be disposed of? Poured into the nearest river? @farmerjo talked about a buyback but more probably it will get used while farmers find an alternative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somo Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 The talk in my village is of restricting the purchase of chemicals to those who have undertaken a government course in how to use them. Simply means you need a bit of paper from the Ampur office saying you can buy it. Not a bad idea as the chemicals they talk about are herbicides not pesticides and don't show up in the food chain and nor do they contaminate the soil. In fact used properly they are harmless. There's been a lot of nonsense talked by emotional people on this subject but it is important to understand a lot of peoples livelyhoods are at stake and for no good reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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