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8 hours ago, manarak said:

yes... although I reckon there are 2 ways to consider the situation.

 

one way is to consider it abuse of diplomatic privilege - but what do we really know about what really happened that caused the death of Harry Dunn (RIP)?

 

I have seen enough court cases to know courts too often don't deliver justice. If this was a true accident for which the defendant bears very little or no responsibility at all, I can fully understand why diplomatic privilege was invoked. I would do the same, just to be on the safe side. Again, I have seen too many innocent people sentenced in accident cases, they got their lives destroyed for several years. The lucky ones spent thousands and thousands on lawyers and stressful years in court before being declared not responsible. It's sad, but I don't trust the courts to uphold justice. They will instead apply some version of the law, some win some lose, but in the end nobody wants to be that one person that loses because of a bad lawyer or a judge who is stupid or in a bad mood or simply thinks you look dodgy.

 

The driver knows whether she bears responsibility or not - I don't know what happened.

If she's not responsible for what happened then I see no ethical issues in avoiding investigation or prosecution, I wouldn't understand why one should undeservedly be exposed to unnecessary legal risks that can possibly ruin a (another) life as a consequence of that accident.

Oh I see, let’s dispense with courts and trial by jury, over 800 years of common law and the principal that a death should be investigated and those believed to be responsible tried in an open court of law before a jury of their peers - because you think you’ve seen courts return wrong verdicts.

 

Since when do we allow the possible impact of justice on the life of the accused to determine whether or not they face trial - poor poor them.

 

This abuse of diplomatic immunity is an affront to justice.

 

As Jingjing has pointed out, it may very well go unchallenged but please quit with the weak justifications.

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11 hours ago, Opl said:

"resident Donald Trump met Dunn's parents earlier this month in Washington, saying their meeting was "sad" but "beautiful." In a subsequent interview, the family said they felt pressure to allow Sacoolas to join the session. "

" sad but beautiful" ..

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/harry-dunn-latest-trump-henchmen-anne-sacoolas-parents-meeting-a9160806.html

"resident Donald Trump"

 

Cute. I like that, "resident" instead of President ! Very apropos.

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7 minutes ago, neeray said:

"resident Donald Trump"

 

Cute. I like that, "resident" instead of President ! Very apropos.

unintentional, missed "P" when I quoted the phrase… noticed it after - too late - and let it unedited, thinking there was no offense, LOL 

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12 hours ago, Ratt Thai said:

Get over it... She has diplomatic immunity period. It does not mean that she not has insurance or is evading justice. Nor is she declining being responsible for the tragic accident.  Justice is there to determine what happened and conclude how much in damages need to be payed. 

This was an accident, not a mayor crime...
 

What a stupid response, hope you do not loose someone you love, she is a piece of S*** to run away.

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It seems she is already guilty by TV members hardliner jury without knowing any details. 😀🤣 

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13 hours ago, Ratt Thai said:

Get over it... She has diplomatic immunity period. It does not mean that she not has insurance or is evading justice. Nor is she declining being responsible for the tragic accident.  Justice is there to determine what happened and conclude how much in damages need to be payed. 

This was an accident, not a mayor crime...
 

And should be answerable to in the country where the incident occurred,  not be whisked away after telling police she had no plans to leave the country. Paying damages does not return life and someone being killed IS major, accident or not.

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14 hours ago, Ratt Thai said:

Get over it... She has diplomatic immunity period. It does not mean that she not has insurance or is evading justice. Nor is she declining being responsible for the tragic accident.  Justice is there to determine what happened and conclude how much in damages need to be payed. 

This was an accident, not a mayor crime...
 

Why don't you go to his parents and tell them face to face that it was an accident and not a major crime? They have lost a son who was irreplaceable and no amount of money and apologies will bring him back. 

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1 hour ago, mtls2005 said:

 

I am under the impression that Ms. Sacoolas acknowledged that she was responsible for the death of Mr. Dunn, in two separate interviews with the police.

 

If she decided subsequently that she was "innocent" then one assumes she would have stayed - as she said she would - and cooperated with the investigation. Her diplomatic immunity would have protected her. Doing a runner makes her look, well, "guilty".

 

 

They leave because the “foreign ministry” advise her to leave the country as quick as possible since she is on political passport, not a tourist. And not because she was at fault. Perhaps time to learn something new for you. 

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2 minutes ago, The Theory said:

They leave because the “foreign ministry” advise her to leave the country as quick as possible since she is on political passport, not a tourist. And not because she was at fault. Perhaps time to learn something new for you. 

Why would they advise her to leave if she did nothing wrong?

 

Even though she was driving on the wrong side of the road.

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2 minutes ago, The Theory said:

They leave because the “foreign ministry” advise her to leave the country as quick as possible since she is on political passport, not a tourist. And not because she was at fault. Perhaps time to learn something new for you. 

 

The "accident" took place on August 27, 2019.

 

Ms. Sacoolas departed RAF Croughton on September 15, 2019.

 

So ~ 20 days later. Not sure how "quick as possible" this was?

 

What is this "foreign ministry"?

 

I love learning new things, feel free to share your experiences.

 

 

 

 

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15 hours ago, Ratt Thai said:

Get over it... She has diplomatic immunity period. It does not mean that she not has insurance or is evading justice. Nor is she declining being responsible for the tragic accident.  Justice is there to determine what happened and conclude how much in damages need to be payed. 

This was an accident, not a mayor crime...
 

She did not have diplomatic immunity prior the accident.

She was given it after she killed the young man.

That could be why it's not so easy to "get over".

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3 hours ago, The Theory said:

It seems she is already guilty by TV members hardliner jury without knowing any details. 😀🤣 

Yea, that's what happens when you flee the scene of a crime.

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