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1 minute ago, beau thai said:

not clear if you have sought help from the letting agent? Do they still get an annual cut after 6 years or do you and Mrs Chinese deal direct, cutting the agent out? If so, I guess they wont be interested in helping you.

Good luck.

It may risk throwing good money after bad, but a cheap letter from a lawyer may be worth a shot. Personally, I would not want her to get away with it even if it cost me some cash.

 

Hi - To be honest I agree with you and will happily pay 50K baht in fees if it does not allow her to get away with shafting another tenant. I am popping down to letting agents tomorrow, closed today due to holiday, as I deal direct with letting agent not landlord.

 

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4 hours ago, Dante99 said:

What would happen if you moved out and the next day somebody got in and just trashed the place.  You have returned home on the airplane and your landlord has lost a lot of money on repairs.  Sad situation for her, really would not want it to happen.  

 

 

 

 

This is not a bad idea.

 

Reading the landlord and having a good fix on their personality before very subtly hinting this in a non-threatening manner will work with people who can apply basic logic - 

 

Such as -

 

"My tenant may trash my unit and blame it on a break-in.

I owe him X amount and he could cost me 3 times X amount or more.

I'm better off refunding his deposit, and hoping I get a sheeple tenant next time who I can steal from".


If its a loon who lives for conflict, that would be a bad fit for this avenue.

Better in that case to try some of the other tactics mentioned  (calling the Government agency which deals with this issue; telling landlord you will make sure he has paid tax -  and then doing so if necessary; going to the police;  etc.).

 

 

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1 hour ago, YoungBrit said:

What is her reason for not returning it within the 15days of you vacating the apartment?

 

To be honest I don’t know. Originally she stated that we would both have to agree to the signed tenancy agreement which clearly states deposit repaid in 15 days. Today received message I must wait 1 month plus 1 day before I should get part of security deposit returned. Not sure why she feels delay is acceptable apart from the fact she knows if I have to rent for full month the cost to me will be greater than security deposit.

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1 hour ago, ThomasThBKK said:

 

In 99% of these cases the reasons are either

1) She would just like to keep it to buy a new handbag

2) She would just like to keep it because she already bought a new handbag and has no money or simply does not want to use her own money to repay you

 

 

 

In that case, assistance from the police would help. 

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Get an agent or close friend to demand deposit on your behalf after you have left.

 

Ask the agent or close friend to transfer the money back to you in your home country bank account.

 

I think landlord should return deposit unless you have damaged her property. No excuse otherwise.

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1 hour ago, EricTh said:

Get an agent or close friend to demand deposit on your behalf after you have left.

 

Ask the agent or close friend to transfer the money back to you in your home country bank account.

 

 

Except this is very likely why she is doing it - he will be out of the country and can't bring pressure on her at that point.

 

Plus she's done it before and gotten away with it, so why not?

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2 minutes ago, JimmyJ said:

Except this is very likely why she is doing it - he will be out of the country and can't bring pressure on her at that point.

 

Plus she's done it before and gotten away with it, so why not?

 

She is not actually connected to the letting agency. They are a professional agent in Chiangmai and as such she will not have direct contact with individual employees.

 

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Following on from recent notes I have posted below message sent to landlord a few moments ago, suitably redacted.


“Hi xxxx- It was great speaking to you today.

 
As I have said previously I have always felt you have been a good landlord, indeed I consider you more than a landlord but also a friend. However I would like to assure you that the following action is not being taken based on any feeling of malice between us.
 
However I am conscious of the people in Thailand and feel it is incumbent on me to ensure that all my taxes over the last 6 years have been collected and paid in accordance with local laws.
 
In this respect I am intending to approach the Thailand revenue department to ensure all my rental payments for the last 6 years have accorded with local tax law regulations.
 
Whilst I am able to forward them a copy of your passport (now expired) to the local revenue authorities together with copies of signed tenancy agreements, proof of rent paid, name of school where you are currently employed I do not have details of your current address. Accordingly can you confirm if the revenue department should contact you in case of need care of the school or xxxxxxxx office. Having said this I assume under TM30 regulations they will know your current address. Please let me know.
 
I have no doubt that you have fully met your tax liabilities in Thailand and the above proposals are merely for my peace of mind. Incidentally I understand that apartment xxxx is in your husbands name and suspect these details can also be passed onto the revenue authorities.
 
I have no doubt that all your earnings whilst in Thailand have been strictly observed and 
as such all appropriate taxes have been paid”
 
I await her response but have already resigned myself to fact that she will not return deposit and looking for anyway that she will not get away with this in the future with other tenants.
 
 
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