Popular Post webfact Posted October 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 23, 2019 Stop! Immigration call a halt to illegal work seminar in Chiang Mai Picture: INN Around 100 Chinese participants at a seminar in Chiang Mai were shocked when immigration and labor department officials came in the room at a hotel in the downtown area. Mae Ping police joined the raid at the hotel on Sunday in the Nong Pa Krang area of the city. It was discovered that the employment seminar had been organised without the necessary licences. Ten Malaysians led by a Mr Eng were taken away and charged. Picture: INN The seminar was being recorded or streamed and computer equipment doing that was also taken away for examination. Neither the nature of the work being offered or the name of the hotel were mentioned in the INN story. Source: INN -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2019-10-23 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info 3 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bluesofa Posted October 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 23, 2019 Looks like the government are successfully doing their best to deter people to visit Thailand. 25 3 2 6 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post colinneil Posted October 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 23, 2019 Shocking holding a seminar without first parting with the required brown envelope. Immigration police should get a BIG pat on the back for sorting out those major criminals, making Thailand safe. I will stop laughing soon.!!!! 17 2 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NCC1701A Posted October 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 23, 2019 Sum Ting Wong with seminar! Sum Ting Wong with boat! Sum Ting Wong with Thailand! 8 1 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Just1Voice Posted October 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 23, 2019 Everyone at that seminar will go home and tell everyone they know about this b.s., further diminishing Thailands reputation, if that is possible. 26 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cmsally Posted October 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 23, 2019 Err , name of hotel not mentioned. It is right there on the photo of the immigration banner !! 9 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bitterbatter Posted October 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 23, 2019 How dare these foreigners bring lots of paying tourists and business to Thailand! Let's not talk to them and sell the permit to them, instead we will send them to jail and courts where they will be guilty until proven innocent. Then they will pay big money for not understanding our very difficult to understand system of payola. 9 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bluesofa Posted October 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 23, 2019 1 minute ago, bitterbatter said: How dare these foreigners bring lots of paying tourists and business to Thailand! Let's not talk to them and sell the permit to them, instead we will send them to jail and courts where they will be guilty until proven innocent. Then they will pay big money for not understanding our very difficult to understand system of payola. Well pointed out. You obviously understand Thai logic very well! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post baansgr Posted October 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 23, 2019 I would assume the participants paid a fee to the organisers of the event who were in fact working without a permit... Are immigration really wrong to arrest illegal workers.... 5 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mango Bob Posted October 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 23, 2019 You will not be able to go to the toilet in this country soon if you do not have a license or/and a GPS. 6 2 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesofa Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, baansgr said: I would assume the participants paid a fee to the organisers of the event who were in fact working without a permit... Are immigration really wrong to arrest illegal workers.... 'assume'? It doesn't mention work permit in the report, it says 'licences': 44 minutes ago, webfact said: It was discovered that the employment seminar had been organised without the necessary licences. Ten Malaysians led by a Mr Eng were taken away and charged. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bluesofa Posted October 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Mango Bob said: You will not be able to go to the toilet in this country soon if you do not have a license or/and a GPS. GPS: General Permission to Sh!t. 6 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cmsally Posted October 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 23, 2019 You would have thought the hotel would be checking/organising paperwork with a conference of this size. How could the issue not have arisen when they hired the space in a hotel of this size/grade. If this was a smaller , less plush hotel it would almost be a sure thing that the hotel owner/manager would have been hauled up too. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Number 6 Posted October 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 23, 2019 Does anyone recall the liberalization of work rules less than a year ago? One item specifically mentioned was the ability for people overseas to hold seminars and work trade shows. I'm old but I do recall this... What a joke. 16 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post keith101 Posted October 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, Number 6 said: Does anyone recall the liberalization of work rules less than a year ago? One item specifically mentioned was the ability for people overseas to hold seminars and work trade shows. I'm old but I do recall this... What a joke. But as we all know each Imm office has its own rules and what can be done in one place cannot in another . 9 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bluesofa Posted October 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Number 6 said: Does anyone recall the liberalization of work rules less than a year ago? One item specifically mentioned was the ability for people overseas to hold seminars and work trade shows. I'm old but I do recall this... What a joke. I too remember this, but wasn't sure if seminars were included. So they obviously were. Fancy not knowing you needed a 'licence' too. I wonder what that might be for - opening your mouth in public, standing in front more than five people, encouraging people to work? The bureaucratic possibilities are endless. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Number 6 Posted October 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 23, 2019 1 minute ago, bluesofa said: I too remember this, but wasn't sure if seminars were included. So they obviously were. Fancy not knowing you needed a 'licence' too. I wonder what that might be for - opening your mouth in public, standing in front more than five people, encouraging people to work? The bureaucratic possibilities are endless. I think much of the law here is just made up. Cops see opportunity for graft and that motivates. Legal permission to hold a seminar? I bet this is 'new law' falling under the vague and often used 'national security' excuse. I'd love to see the law that was broken. Draconian. Let's hope it was some sketchy boiler room, time share, penny stock, MLM seminar. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bluesofa Posted October 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 23, 2019 19 minutes ago, Number 6 said: I think much of the law here is just made up. Cops see opportunity for graft and that motivates. Legal permission to hold a seminar? I bet this is 'new law' falling under the vague and often used 'national security' excuse. I'd love to see the law that was broken. Draconian. Let's hope it was some sketchy boiler room, time share, penny stock, MLM seminar. Of course it's made up. How could we forget the PM's hatred of free speech, and his persecution of anyone reading 1984, by charging them with "eating a sandwich with political intent" in June 2014. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mickc Posted October 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 23, 2019 I just dont understand how they cant see the damage that they are doing. Their priorities are just all wrong. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasThBKK Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Holding seminars is allowed, paid conferences def. not, even in bangkok they handle it like that. thai laws as always mean nothing anyway, banana... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvaviator Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Holding seminars is allowed, paid conferences def. not, even in bangkok they handle it like that. thai laws as always mean nothing anyway, banana...Does anyone know what the subject of the seminar was ?Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number 6 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 I can see the issue if money is being made. It's business and Thailand and the cops not getting their cut. Fair enough but a license? Hopefully they mean a permit. Anyway, it's hopelessly anti business. Just hope it was something worth shutting down like MLM or how to set up boiler room operation in Thailand. Shame on the hotel for letting it happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bluesofa Posted October 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 23, 2019 18 minutes ago, rvaviator said: Does anyone know what the subject of the seminar was ? Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app 'The Ease Of Doing Business In Thailand' 4 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThomasThBKK Posted October 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 23, 2019 Just now, Number 6 said: I can see the issue if money is being made. It's business and Thailand and the cops not getting their cut. Fair enough but a license? Hopefully they mean a permit. Anyway, it's hopelessly anti business. Just hope it was something worth shutting down like MLM or how to set up boiler room operation in Thailand. Shame on the hotel for letting it happen. You can ATTEND a conference, seminar etc on a tourist visa, that's totally fine now after the emergency decree. Quote (1) a non-Thai who comes to Thailand on a short-term periodic basis to: hold or to attend a meeting, lecture, seminar, training, exhibition of art or culture, or sports competition; provide an opinion; inspect work of others; or, any other activities, as prescribed by the Council of Ministers. I think here the line has been crossed when they charged money for this and especially because it is sketchy af - this isn't a meeting/seminar, it looks like a boiler room scam The ones that attended had no issues tho. If you take a look at the picture of immigration and the style of how the conference was done - it looks to me like the typical MLM/PONZI/MONEYGAME/BOILERROOM scam. They ship chinese over to conferences in Thailand to rip them off, it's very common. I can imagine why they didn't try to get it registered... This is one of the rare cases where i actually think what the coppers did is correct, and also the journalism is exceptionally bad, the original article talks about promotion of ILLEGAL BUSINESS. Everything including finance needs a license to promote, those are the rules in pretty much every country. you can't just put people in a room and sell them investments. Quote Pol.Lt.Gen. Somphong Chingdao, Director of Immigration Bureau together with Immigration in Chiang Mai Announcing the arrest of 10 Malaysian aliens using the area of Chiang Mai to organize a seminar to engage in illegal business activities. This is what google translate says... maybe someone with proper thai can translate the original article... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matzzon Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 3 hours ago, bluesofa said: Looks like the government are successfully doing their best to deter people to visit Thailand. Why would that be? Looks to me that they are trying to catch people that are working illegal or offering work/products illegally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post alan grice Posted October 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 23, 2019 Police just followed a Flag with 100 folks waddling behind it.[emoji85]Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justgrazing Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, webfact said: Around 100 Chinese participants at a seminar in Chiang Mai were shocked when immigration and labor department officials came in the room at a hotel with taser's .? Edited October 23, 2019 by Justgrazing Sp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 2 hours ago, cmsally said: You would have thought the hotel would be checking/organising paperwork with a conference of this size. How could the issue not have arisen when they hired the space in a hotel of this size/grade. If this was a smaller , less plush hotel it would almost be a sure thing that the hotel owner/manager would have been hauled up too. maybe if it had been a (more than 3 people) gathering 'outside' - then could also have played Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thequietman Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 2 hours ago, keith101 said: But as we all know each Imm office has its own rules and what can be done in one place cannot in another . To quote my local Imm officer, "New Rules, New Rules." ???? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 3 hours ago, bluesofa said: I too remember this, but wasn't sure if seminars were included. So they obviously were. Fancy not knowing you needed a 'licence' too. I wonder what that might be for - opening your mouth in public, standing in front more than five people, encouraging people to work? The bureaucratic possibilities are endless. Fink one of them was getting married at the same time....???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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