webfact Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Granny who "came back to life" was dead all along, says hospital director Picture: Siam Rath The director of the Soon Udon Thani Hospital in Thailand's north east has said that the 70 year old woman who relatives thought had come back to life was dead all along. Relatives were shocked when Phinit Sophajorn, 70, opened her eyes and appeared to breathe. Her husband aged 73 was washing her face in a final ritual before the coffin was sealed for cremation. The ceremony was cancelled and she was taken home. Now it appears Phinit has actually died. Hospital director Dr Narong Thadadech said that the patient was transferred from Nong Han Hospital on the 7th of October with a blocked artery leading to the brain and thyroid problems. Picture: Siam Rath She was given oxygen and placed on a respirator. By 20th October she was given little chance of recovery and relatives decided to take her home to die. He said that the woman had died for two or three days but that her eyes may have opened due to a reflex action of certain cells brought on by the cold of a cooling coffin. There was no pulse and the body was limp indicating that she had died several days ago. After a 24 period of rigor mortis the body had relaxed. He reiterated that people were checked for brain death, heart function and breathing - if these vital signs were not present the patient was dead. Doctors usually perform such checks after accidents or sudden death but at home this might be ascertained by relatives. They could always call in doctors for confirmation, he said. Source: Siam Rath -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2019-10-25 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chang_paarp Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 So death certificates are not a thing in Thailand? In most places these have to be signed by a qualified person (doctor) after physically inspecting the body as I understand this, so what happened here? Death certificates are required prior to final funeral arrangements being made from my experience outside of Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keith101 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 7 minutes ago, Chang_paarp said: So death certificates are not a thing in Thailand? In most places these have to be signed by a qualified person (doctor) after physically inspecting the body as I understand this, so what happened here? Death certificates are required prior to final funeral arrangements being made from my experience outside of Thailand. TIT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 only a doctor (or approved medical professional) can sign a death certificate except in Thailand were a show of hands will do - majority wins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Wait, wait, I'm not dead! in fact i'm feeling a lot better. You're only fooling yourself, lie back and keep quiet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atyclb Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 seems the famous monty python sketch about the so called dead parrot can be applicable to people in thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 6 hours ago, webfact said: Doctors usually perform such checks after accidents or sudden death but at home this might be ascertained by relatives. They could always call in doctors for confirmation, he said. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HLover Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 He reiterated that people were checked for brain death... Perhaps the family could be checked as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classic Ray Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 In the UK a doctor always had to pronounce life extinct, except in cases like no head. If someone had no medical treatment within 14 days, was not in hospital, or had died a sudden, violent, or unnatural death, then the coroner could order a PM and an inquest. This is where no doctor was willing to sign a death certificate. Here, take a vote and buy some lottery tickets! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I wonder Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 7 hours ago, keith101 said: TIT ????Precisely TIT ???????????????????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seajae Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 strange that on facebook they are reporting she is alive and that she was resuscitated by paramedics after her daughter (a doctor) found a week pulse after she opened her eyes and took a few breaths, seems someone has it wrong ( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 i'm confused ….. is she dead or alive ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, seajae said: she was resusitated bt paramedics after her daughter a doctor do you mean ' she was resuscitated by paramedics and her daughter who is a doctor ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropposurfer Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Sure fire way to tell if nana was morte majoris ... play a loop recording of Boney M on the karioke box at home n if she don’t get up n get down then yep she’s surely shuffled off this mortal coil???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropposurfer Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 2 hours ago, Classic Ray said: In the UK a doctor always had to pronounce life extinct, except in cases like no head. If someone had no medical treatment within 14 days, was not in hospital, or had died a sudden, violent, or unnatural death, then the coroner could order a PM and an inquest. This is where no doctor was willing to sign a death certificate. Here, take a vote and buy some lottery tickets! So if no head it’s: ok go right ahead then ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGW Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 8 minutes ago, Tropposurfer said: shuffled off this mortal coil "mortal coil" I had never heard this term until two days ago when I got a mail telling me a former colleague had "shuffled of his mortal coil" I thought he had been taken to a "nut house" thinking now I may have got the meaning wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckThai Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 The rule #3: poke it in the eye with a stick, if it's still alive, it will try to jump up and run away, or fight back and bite you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foghorn Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 So if no brain activity that means they are dead . This is Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaRoadrunner Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 21 minutes ago, Foghorn said: So if no brain activity that means they are dead . This is Thailand In that case there are an awful lot of dead people walking around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moe666 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 9 hours ago, Chang_paarp said: So death certificates are not a thing in Thailand? In most places these have to be signed by a qualified person (doctor) after physically inspecting the body as I understand this, so what happened here? Death certificates are required prior to final funeral arrangements being made from my experience outside of Thailand. Do you really care if there is a death cert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moe666 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 I have to ask where is Granny now at home having a drink or just ashes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 37 minutes ago, Foghorn said: So if no brain activity that means they are dead . This is Thailand Q. Is “brain-dead” the same as dead? A. Yes. Many people think death happens when the heart stops beating and the lungs stop breathing, but machines can support those functions when the brain no longer can, Tawil says. https://www.webmd.com/brain/news/20140103/brain-dead-faq#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycjoe Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 https://youtu.be/_G7Y786wqtk Stanley holloway ditty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atyclb Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 3 hours ago, steven100 said: i'm confused ….. is she dead or alive ?? ask "bon jovi" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
car720 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 10 hours ago, HLover said: He reiterated that people were checked for brain death... Perhaps the family could be checked as well. and the doctors and anyone else in the whole system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unify Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 On 10/25/2019 at 7:48 PM, CGW said: "mortal coil" I had never heard this term until two days ago when I got a mail telling me a former colleague had "shuffled of his mortal coil" I thought he had been taken to a "nut house" thinking now I may have got the meaning wrong! It's from Hamlet, the "To be, or not to be" bit. . . . To sleep: perchance to dream: ay, there’s the rub; For in that sleep of death what dreams may come When we have shuffled off this mortal coil, Must give us pause: there’s the respect That makes calamity of so long life; . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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