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Hi all.

 

When I come back from the US in January, I need to get a new non-O (retirement) visa. I have been thinking of doing a TM87 change visa from visa exempt to non-O (retirement) at the Chiang Mai IO but it looks like that will be a general pain. Someone in another topic - ubonjoe, if I remember correctly -  suggested just getting a non-O at Savannakhet. After looking at the requirements, it does seem to be more straightforward that dealing with CM. I do have a couple of questions though. The requirements set out on the consulate web page are:

 

Required documents

  1. Visa application form [Download] which is completely filled out and signed by the applicant
  2. Original passport or travel document (must not expire within 180 days and contain at least two complete empty visa pages) and A copy of passport (The page(s) shows the applicant’s photo, name, date, and place of birth and the expiration date of passport)
  3. Two (2) photos of the applicant (3.5 x 4.5 cm, taken within 6 months)
  4. Bank statement (minimum of THB 800,000) or Certification of Income (minimum of THB 65,000 monthly)
  5. Official letter from the concerned Embassy/Consulate of applicant's nationality
  6. Visa Fee: 2,000 Baht (Single Entry)

 

For No. 4, can I just use copies of my savings account passbook from Bangkok Bank? Do I need a bank letter or something similar?

 

For No. 5, I have no idea what is meant. Is is a standard form from the US Consulate stating I am a US citizen? Never heard of such a document so I am clueless.

 

Everything else seems pretty straightforward, however, I would appreciate any tips that might be offered from folks that have done a non-O (retirement) visa recently. 

 

Thanks

 

David

 

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1 hour ago, Genericnic said:

For No. 5, I have no idea what is meant. Is is a standard form from the US Consulate stating I am a US citizen? Never heard of such a document so I am clueless.

That is an form that just says you are an American Citizen signed by you and the Embassy.  You would think having a American Passport you wouldn't need it.  But you do. It also cost you $50.

 

Edit:  I don't know who screws us more than Embassy or the Thai Immigrations. 

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Regarding No. 4, since the US Embassy stopped issuing income letters in late 2018 (as did the UK and AU embassies) you would need the letter from the Thai bank confirming you have Bt800K in a Thai bank.  

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1 minute ago, Pib said:

Regarding No. 4, since the US Embassy stopped issuing income letters in late 2018 (as did the UK and AU embassies) you would need the letter from the Thai bank confirming you have Bt800K in a Thai bank.  

No problem getting that from Bangkok Bank. How recent does it have to be? I should be able to get the letter from the Bangkok Bank in Mukdahan before I cross the border but it would be one or two days old by the time I filed for the visa.

 

David

 

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On the application, it's just written " non immigrant visa "; is it O visa or O-A ? , because if it's O-A , it's usefulness, because we ask the O to avoid the O-A 

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4 minutes ago, Aforek said:

On the application, it's just written " non immigrant visa "; is it O visa or O-A ? , because if it's O-A , it's usefulness, because we ask the O to avoid the O-A 

Based on the types of visas listed on the Savannakhet website, they do not issue O-A visas, only non-O.

 

David

 

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4 minutes ago, Genericnic said:

No problem getting that from Bangkok Bank. How recent does it have to be? I should be able to get the letter from the Bangkok Bank in Mukdahan before I cross the border but it would be one or two days old by the time I filed for the visa.

David

 

Hopefully someone who has got a non-o retirement at Savannakhet or Vientiane will answer but I would think up to one week would be OK.  As you mentioned, it would be tough in getting a letter that's much fresher than one or two days old. 

 

I would get one from your local branch the day before you begin your trip which will probably be 1-3 days before you apply for the non-O.....don't take the chance of hoping to be able to get a letter at a branch just before crossing the border as Murphy's Law will surely come into play.

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2 hours ago, Genericnic said:

5. Official letter from the concerned Embassy/Consulate of applicant's nationality

I think that is an error in translation.

If you translate the Thai version it states this.

"5. Certificate of retirement from the embassy of that person with that nationality"

See: http://www.thaiembassy.org/savannakhet/th/services/9736/106949-Non-Immigrant-Visa-"O"-(For-the-purpose.html

 

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1 minute ago, ubonjoe said:

I think that is an error in translation.

If you translate the Thai version it states this.

"5. Certificate of retirement from the embassy of that person with that nationality"

See: http://www.thaiembassy.org/savannakhet/th/services/9736/106949-Non-Immigrant-Visa-"O"-(For-the-purpose.html

 

Hmmm. Well that is a whole different matter then. Good to know before paying $50 for the one saying I am a US citizen. Of course it is going to be $50 either way. LOL

 

David

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I recently posted a similar question here but I received no helpful advice at all.


My plan is to give Savannakhet Consulate a print out of my Australian bank account balance (fingers crossed).


As for the "Certificate of retirement" issue, as we know, there is no such thing. Some have suggested using a statutory declaration from one's Embassy.

 

There is a problem however, getting any kind of document from the Australian Embassy in Bangkok. (please see attached image).

 

2 points to note:

  1. They say stat decs will not be issued "for use outside Australia".
  2. They state categorically that they "will not provide supporting documents for Thai Visa applications".

This nasty, bloody minded attitude is hard to comprehend, but seems to fit in nicely with the general atmosphere of persecution that expats experience these days in Thailand.

 

It's interesting to note that the Aussie Department of Home Affairs collaborates in making life difficult for its citizens.

There are 2 possible solutions to this conundrum.

 

  1. Convince them the stat dec is for something else not visa related (might need to use NLP or jedi mind control skills)
  2. Try a Aussie Embassy in a different country - maybe the one in Vientiane (they don't have the same rude notice on their website).

I have already prepared a statutory declaration and I'm planning to try to get it signed at the Embassy this week. If they refuse I will try Vientiane.

 

It would be great to hear from Ubon Joe or anybody who has solid experience on this!

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1 hour ago, ubonjoe said:

I think that is an error in translation.

If you translate the Thai version it states this.

"5. Certificate of retirement from the embassy of that person with that nationality"

See: http://www.thaiembassy.org/savannakhet/th/services/9736/106949-Non-Immigrant-Visa-"O"-(For-the-purpose.html

 

It seems they say that this document must be written in Thai, right ? 

 

"Document in foreign languages must be translated into Thai. If translated into English, it should be notarized by notary organs or the applicant’s diplomatic/ consular mission."

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2 minutes ago, Aforek said:

It seems they say that this document must be written in Thai, right ? 

Would be great to hear from someone who has actually done this so they can enlighten us as to what the correct procedure is.

 

David

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I take the solution "Savannakhet " to change my O-A visa in O visa; I have to do it very soon (in 10 days ) 

for money, can I stay only with my thai bahts , even to spend money in Savannakhet or I

have to use lao money ( what's the name ? ) or USD ? 

For the paper from embassy, if I have not it, in my passeport it's written " retired " for the O-A visa , and my nationality ( of course ), maybe it's enough, or I ask a "tourist visa " ( need to buy a plane ticket out of Thailand even if I don't use it ) 

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1 hour ago, Aforek said:

I take the solution "Savannakhet " to change my O-A visa in O visa; I have to do it very soon (in 10 days ) 

for money, can I stay only with my thai bahts , even to spend money in Savannakhet or I

have to use lao money ( what's the name ? ) or USD ? 

If your OA visa is still valid they will not issue a non-o visa.

Best not to rush into a getting a non-o visa since every rule indicates it is only for OA visas issued tomorrow or after.

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