webfact Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 French couple survive attack by "killer wasps" but trekking guide is killed Picture: Thai Rath Thai Rath reported that two French tourists trekking in the Mae Ai district of Chiang Mai had survived an attack by a swarm of killer wasps. A French man was out of hospital but his 59 year old wife was still in hospital in Chiang Rai. The attack happened on Saturday. Villagers in Pha Tai, Thaton informed the police that they had found their trekking guide dead from multiple stings. Investigators were unable to get to the corpse of the guide because the wasps were still swarming near the body. He was named as 58 year old Sanchai Phao-Arun. Rescue teams were planning a further attempt to retrieve his body later. The media reported that the couple had been out on a nature trail with the guide. When the wasps attacked they all ran in different directions and they lost contact with the guide. He was only found some time later. Villagers helped the foreigners get to hospital for treatment. The wasps were described as black with a furry body. Source: Thai Rath -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2019-10-30 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andre47 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 R.I.P ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanookTeufel Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 What?? What kind of wasps are these? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmsally Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Maybe Asian giant hornets ? Had to make detours a few times to avoid them, give them a wide berth. Looks like this group literally stumbled into them on the trail. Very nasty. Poor guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanookTeufel Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Just now, cmsally said: Maybe Asian giant hornets ? Had to make detours a few times to avoid them, give them a wide berth. Looks like this group literally stumbled into them on the trail. Very nasty. Poor guy. I sat next to some on a bench... There was 3 or 4... I sat there for a good minute or 2 before noticing (they were hiding behind the bench) Anyways, they seemed very docile during my encounter with them... I stayed further away from that bench after that though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimmer Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 18 minutes ago, cmsally said: Maybe Asian giant hornets ? Had to make detours a few times to avoid them, give them a wide berth. Looks like this group literally stumbled into them on the trail. Very nasty. Poor guy. Yes also suspect Asian Hornets, having been stung by them several times from nests in the garden I can say it is most painful and lasts for a couple of weeks after being stung. I remember we once had a hasher stung several times by these guys he was in so much pain and went into shock he had to be hospitalized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 from my experience and limited knowledge there predators are mammals so they don't like CO2. If they are downwinf from CO2 and they think the colony is in danger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMW Overlander Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 There was a nest under my bedroom window. Lived in fear for weeks until local guy told me to pour gasoline on the nest. So I did, 3-4 hours later they were all gone forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Excellent video Giant Wasps (Asia) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timendres Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 13 minutes ago, bangkokequity said: Excellent video Giant Wasps (Asia) OMG! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assurancetourix Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 3 hours ago, cmsally said: Maybe Asian giant hornets ? Had to make detours a few times to avoid them, give them a wide berth. Looks like this group literally stumbled into them on the trail. Very nasty. Poor guy. Maybe wild bees ; There was a nest in an ilang-ilang in our garden; I wanted to photograph them and I approached too much; a good part of them attack me; some stung me, one in an eyebrow; the bites were very painful and lasted a long time; If they have been stung by a whole nest of hundreds of bees, they are lucky to be alive. RIP for the guide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheshiremusicman Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 These Asian Hornets are extremely dangerous and should be avoided at all cost. I had a nest of them in a bush in the garden (unbeknown to me) and happened to catch the bush with some ladders I was using and I was attacked by three of them and got stung on the knee. Extremely painful which lasted for about three days before dying down. Some two weeks after my ankle felt as though it was almost paralysed. The doctor told me that the toxin can stay in your body for months and if you are unfortunate to get stung again by one of these hornets it can possibly kill you. I waited until evening and poured petrol on the bush and lit it with a long stick which had a petrol rag on the end which burnt the nest in seconds and I was darned glad to get rid of it. About two years ago, two Thai men were killed by these hornets whilst trying to raid a hornets nest for the grubs south of Hua-Hin. One man did survive, but was in hospital for months before recovering from the toxin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IraqRon Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 A local guide, chiang rai area, was stung to death a couple of years ago while leading tourists on a trek. seems some hill tribe people had been hunting in the area and stirred the wasps up inadvertently. Really sad to see it happen to these guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmsally Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 32 minutes ago, Assurancetourix said: Maybe wild bees ; There was a nest in an ilang-ilang in our garden; I wanted to photograph them and I approached too much; a good part of them attack me; some stung me, one in an eyebrow; the bites were very painful and lasted a long time; If they have been stung by a whole nest of hundreds of bees, they are lucky to be alive. RIP for the guide Those look like Paper Wasps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assurancetourix Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Thank you very much cmsally ; I went on Wiki to know more about these animals : แตน in thai language . " Because they are a known pollinator and feed on known garden pests, paper wasps are often considered to be beneficial by gardeners " https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper_wasp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 5 hours ago, webfact said: Rescue teams were planning a further attempt to retrieve his body later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCC1701A Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 1 hour ago, bangkokequity said: Excellent video Giant Wasps (Asia) One may rethink your walk in the jungle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamahele Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Is this different than the "royal bees" which are aggressive but are supposed to bring good luck? Had to live with one of their nests in the yard for 6 months until they moved away to avoid bad luck lol. Couldn't keep the outside lights on at night as they swarm at the light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkgriz Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Japanese Giant Hornet. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_giant_hornet Didn't think they were in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmsally Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 22 minutes ago, kamahele said: Is this different than the "royal bees" which are aggressive but are supposed to bring good luck? Had to live with one of their nests in the yard for 6 months until they moved away to avoid bad luck lol. Couldn't keep the outside lights on at night as they swarm at the light. If you are in the North of Thailand , the ones that most people regard as lucky and won't move the nests are called "min". Not too sure what the proper name for these are but they are very dark and can build some huge nests. Luckily they mostly like to build nests high in trees (but not always). They don't seem very aggressive though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttrd Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 2 hours ago, BMW Overlander said: There was a nest under my bedroom window. Lived in fear for weeks until local guy told me to pour gasoline on the nest. So I did, 3-4 hours later they were all gone forever. .... they may come back when they are empty for gasoline - for a refill ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckamuck Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Generally it is always these guys. Vespa Tropica. Big colonies, sting like a land mine, and can be aggressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxxper Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Unfortunate event. Hope for the quick recovery of the tourists and condolences to the guides family. RIP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark mark Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 4 hours ago, VocalNeal said: from my experience and limited knowledge there predators are mammals so they don't like CO2. If they are downwinf from CO2 and they think the colony is in danger. So I wonder how they go on Smoking ! ? The Guide probably having a smoke in his Mouth ? ... Well worth steering well clear of, like I never would have Believed it ! Having worked in the Jungle and other Places at the head of Scheismic lines Like we were the first ones to find the Bee and wasps nests !!! Knocked over by the Buldozes, in the Old days in Auz, Bulldozers being out now I do believe .... or the Rentis crew in the tropics ... .... But well, yearrr ! It looks like these little bastards are WELL worth looking out for. .... Like I also wonder how much Cross Pollinating they do ? ... They say that 60% of Main Land Europe's Insects, are going to be gone in a few Years ! and that this will produce Immense problems for Farmers re getting their Crops Cross Pollinated ! ... So I usually try to let them go and keep them in our Garden, ... though well TIT ... If I am not there they get Burnt out and Annihilated. ... Maybe now I can see why ! ? ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttrd Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 21 minutes ago, canuckamuck said: Generally it is always these guys. Vespa Tropica. Big colonies, sting like a land mine, and can be aggressive. Only 30 of them manage to kill 30.000 honey bees in just 3 hours to get access to the larvae .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeCross Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 5 hours ago, Rimmer said: Yes also suspect Asian Hornets, having been stung by them several times from nests in the garden I can say it is most painful and lasts for a couple of weeks after being stung. I remember we once had a hasher stung several times by these guys he was in so much pain and went into shock he had to be hospitalized. i got stung twice by them and it was insane - like being hit by a taser, pure white out, couldn't see for about 5 seconds before my head cleared, was just running blind though the jungle, probably 50 times more painful than a standard western bee sting, with a weird sensation like it punched you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce404 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 We had a nest of these critters. There are actually several varieties of genus and species of aggressive "wasps" or "hornets", for which the local terminology is often translated as "tiger head wasps". The first time I encountered them I was lucky. In running away they stung me twice behind my knee through thick pants of blue denim jeans. Unlike bees, they do not die upon stinging. A week or two later, I got stung once or twice on an un-gloved hand. It was painful, of course, and over the next few days the hand swelled up to twice its normal size, taking two or three weeks to return to normal size and the prolonged itchiness to subside. After that, I called in professional exterminators who sprayed white liquid insecticide to the nest about 4 meters above the ground. (Gasoline and fire might have worked, but are dangerous to use in many situations or near flammable objects.) The photograph is a sample of the dead critters the exterminators provided me afterwards. Notice the very thin waists of the wasps/hornets, different from other photos posted by others. If the hand swelling after the initial stings weeks before had been an induced allergic reaction, stings on the neck or nearby might have caused serious and even fatal blockage of airways by tissue swelling and anaphylactic shock. If one has risk of being exposed to such stinging insects, especially after having a previous exposure to their stings, it would be a good idea to carry a bee-sting kit (epinephrine ["adrenaline"] and hypodermic syringes) and know how to use them. The life you save may be your own, or that of a loved one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worgeordie Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 There was a story on the BBC just the other day,about Asia Hornets arriving in the UK. Twice we have those very big black and yellow hornets nests in the eves of the house,tackled them at night,with, big pole with some termite spray on a cloth,and forced it into the nest, by the next afternoon, they had the nest all repaired as good as new,next put petrol on the rag and pushed it into nest,had to do that a few times to finally get rid of them,we have a couple of bee nests in the garden but just leave them alone. regards worgeordie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borzandy Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 6 hours ago, SanookTeufel said: What?? What kind of wasps are these? They are Thai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knocker33 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 6 hours ago, cmsally said: Maybe Asian giant hornets ? Had to make detours a few times to avoid them, give them a wide berth. Looks like this group literally stumbled into them on the trail. Very nasty. Poor guy. wife got stung by one of these a few weeks ago. Hand swelled up like a balloon. Nasty little bustards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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