Hemorrhoids - An itch that won't go away

[Orton Rd]

1 hour ago, neeray said:

I had this problem (not quite as severe) 3 decades ago. It was solved naturally, no operation, no creams, no suppositories, no altering of diet. Cured and never returned.

PM me if you like and I'll fill you in.

I also attribute the natural cure to my exceptionally good health (zero problems), and younger-than-my-age-looks at 71.

 

And BTW, the bathing in Epsom salts suggestion is A1.

why the need for pm? just post it on the forum

[Orton Rd]

4 hours ago, terminatorchiangmai said:

After years of Proctosedyl i finally discovered this cream that i only had to use 2 times to get cured.

I hope it works for you also.

Also consider if you might be having a yeast infection , then take a Fluconazole tablet and use canesten together with hemorrhoid cream.

I am very happy that even after a night of drinking they not come back, all because of this cream

 

Good luck and good health

Used that it does not cure but has lindocane in it which dulls pain probably one of the best though

[GarryP]

22 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

 

Thanks for that but it doesn't seem to show him as available?

 

I wondered when you said Mon - Thurs as I know he is at Bumrungrad Thursday evenings.

Unless I am misinterpreting the below screen shot. However, I do note that the Bumrungrad Hospital lists him as being available on Thursdays from 3 to 5pm.  

[johnnysunshine]

I had itching for the first time in years the other day.  

I applied aloe vera gel from the plant a few times a day and itching is gone.

You do not require doctors for hemorrhoids.   Surgery is quite painful after surgery I heard and you do not want to start taking drug which will dehydrate you and increase your challenge.

I have been dealing with this issue for many years and now they are internal instead of external...and that's a good start.   

Clean out your colon first with a colonic and then eat softer foods and chew thoroughly and drink lots of water...lots of times the hems are from dehydration.

Also, ask yourself "what am I holding on to that does not serve me" and whatever that is, let it go!

[atyclb]

21 hours ago, Lacessit said:

Surgery is sometimes indicated for hemorrhoids. Banding with rubber bands is painless, and they are gone after a while. Thrombosed or blood clot hemorrhoids do not respond to topical applications, and do require surgery. The doctor you consult will be able to advise you.

You shouldn't be embarrassed by your OP. IMO we all develop various ailments. Personally, I'd be far more embarrassed by an STD.

 

clot will typically resorb in time though uncomfortable but having the clot evacuated via anesthesia injection and incision is no walk in the park either not to mention bleeding and wearng an uncomfortable pad.

[Enoon]

23 hours ago, GarryP said:

No blood in my stools. Blood was was from the sore area around my butthole. 

 

Modify your diet to ensure easy(er) bowel movements.

 

I used to suffer a lot more with them until I did that.

 

I am not a vegetarian but ensure that I maintain a adequate to high vegetable/fruit/fibre:meat/low fibre ratio.

 

I can provoke them easily, with a lot of blood, if I fail to maintain that ratio.

 

 

[otaku00]

I agree with some of the advice. Mine are chronical ext and internal 2nd degree. In Germany I got one of the two common minisurgery treatments, 3 visits, rather painless. I was good for about 5 years after that, but having been to different hospitals government and private here had to learn they prefer to give you Daflon (and also differ on what hemorrhoid is external and internal ...) Daflon is a natural flavoid tablet, not too expensive, buy it outside the hospital because you probably need to take it longer than they first say anyway (ask the pharmacists, they told me and where right). My treatment usually takes 2 months but they wanted to see me again after two weeks.

 

For thrombosed ones - you can learn to feel the difference by touching them - there is a cream: Heparin, 60.000 units e.g. It will thin your skin and may cause bleeding, it was recommended by one of the best in Germany, not recommended for that bleeding risk here, but you may feel the thombosis going down rather quickly - contrary to the  "common" hemorrhoid. I guess they recommend the rubber band or other methods only on stage 3 here. To be honest, their advice first <deleted> me off because i already knew minisurgery is more effective.  On the other hand Daflon also seems to work on the long run.

 

For the itching and other problems I use a zink cream. 

 

I am not afraid to wear sanitary napkins if the bleeding could go through my pants although i prefer two boxers.

 

Sitting bathes with apple cidre etc are no real help.

 

But psyllium is. Natural and cheap. Makes your stool soft. Much better than the magnesium milk they give u that will cause bloating. Some of us are sensitive to overfibering but a spoonful of psyllium is much more comfortable than lets say added inulin. Maybe your doc knows where to get it and how it is called here and u can tell us?

 

 

[Sheryl]

1 hour ago, GarryP said:

Unless I am misinterpreting the below screen shot. However, I do note that the Bumrungrad Hospital lists him as being available on Thursdays from 3 to 5pm.  

Now that is weird as this is what I get in Chrome using translate.

Not only is availability different but the doctors are listed in different order.

I'd defer to the Thai version though.

[GarryP]

39 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

Now that is weird as this is what I get in Chrome using translate.

Not only is availability different but the doctors are listed in different order.

I'd defer to the Thai version though.

I think the problem is that you are looking at the wrong section. I got the below with Chrome translate from a search based on his name. The second image is from the listing of all departments and all doctors, which shows him at the Endoscopic clinic, not colorectal surgery clinic. 

 

I like the way "outside hours/time" is translated as "part-time".

[otaku00]

Ok, i should have made this clearer. Forget my term minisurgery, it must have been the injection method in Germany,  called sclerotherapy. It was long ago. Here they give success rates and risks of some methods and prefer rubber band ligature: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/7032489/

[Brayka]

They all give you the best advice (they think). Although some of them have nothing to do with it, some even are dangerous.

Blood in your stool doesn’t mean it’s dangerous, as you say you have haemorrhoids, and it’s normal. This also means it’s not going away with cream or anything else because you’re already in stade 2. Sometimes injections right in it helps but very painful.

The best option is an operation. Don’t worry it’s not so bad, only uncomfortable just for a few days. After you feel really relieved.

Wish you luck!

[Langsuan Man]

I had "itching" problems for years but fortunately learned never to strain  going to the toilet, so itching was my only symptom. Saw a  proctologist who recommended using Hibiclens on my anal area when I shower.  Since then 9 years ago, no more itching, your mileage may very, but it's a cheap test

 

[RobbyXNorway]

Did you start a new kind of medication shortly before you got the problem? I had a similar problem caused by some tablets that really f****d up my system. Dropped the tablets and the hemorroids went away.

 

[neeray]

21 hours ago, Orton Rd said:

why the need for pm? just post it on the forum

Maybe I didn't feel like taking flak from the resident contrarians.

Maybe I don't like discussing personal matters in public.

OP promptly sent me a PM and appreciated my input.

 

So what's the problem?

[atyclb]

4 hours ago, neeray said:

Maybe I didn't feel like taking flak from the resident contrarians.

Maybe I don't like discussing personal matters in public.

OP promptly sent me a PM and appreciated my input.

 

So what's the problem?

 

"appreciated my input."

 

no pun intended of course given the thread topic

[atyclb]

5 hours ago, RobbyXNorway said:

Did you start a new kind of medication shortly before you got the problem? I had a similar problem caused by some tablets that really f****d up my system. Dropped the tablets and the hemorroids went away.

 

 

haemorrhoids do not go away, they can become asymptomatic. 

[Toscano]

I believe CANESTEN BLUE , or RED , easily available at a good pharmacy , will relieve the itching and discomfort , but you may need to be operated .  I would recommend you to go to any hospital outpatient department , if the physician thinks you need to see a specialist you are right there . I am not in favour of private clinics .

[GarryP]

On 11/1/2019 at 11:48 AM, The Old Bull said:

I cut my beer drinking down to one night a week ,worked for me.

I don't usually drink more than once a week and even then usually no more than four small bottles, so the problem is unlikely to be beer intake. 

[Orton Rd]

On 11/1/2019 at 1:51 PM, otaku00 said:

I agree with some of the advice. Mine are chronical ext and internal 2nd degree. In Germany I got one of the two common minisurgery treatments, 3 visits, rather painless. I was good for about 5 years after that, but having been to different hospitals government and private here had to learn they prefer to give you Daflon (and also differ on what hemorrhoid is external and internal ...) Daflon is a natural flavoid tablet, not too expensive, buy it outside the hospital because you probably need to take it longer than they first say anyway (ask the pharmacists, they told me and where right). My treatment usually takes 2 months but they wanted to see me again after two weeks.

 

For thrombosed ones - you can learn to feel the difference by touching them - there is a cream: Heparin, 60.000 units e.g. It will thin your skin and may cause bleeding, it was recommended by one of the best in Germany, not recommended for that bleeding risk here, but you may feel the thombosis going down rather quickly - contrary to the  "common" hemorrhoid. I guess they recommend the rubber band or other methods only on stage 3 here. To be honest, their advice first <deleted> me off because i already knew minisurgery is more effective.  On the other hand Daflon also seems to work on the long run.

 

For the itching and other problems I use a zink cream. 

 

I am not afraid to wear sanitary napkins if the bleeding could go through my pants although i prefer two boxers.

 

Sitting bathes with apple cidre etc are no real help.

 

But psyllium is. Natural and cheap. Makes your stool soft. Much better than the magnesium milk they give u that will cause bloating. Some of us are sensitive to overfibering but a spoonful of psyllium is much more comfortable than lets say added inulin. Maybe your doc knows where to get it and how it is called here and u can tell us?

 

 

Had bands done in 1980, went in for surgery in 1987 but they decided to try injections instead. Nothing permanently successful as still get them, last week the latest. If external I found, not bathing in apple cider vinegar but having a compress on them overnight was very effective. It has to be organic not the cheaper ones. Psylium is good and you can get an effective mix with other ingredients called fiberly doughnut at the chemists here. Strange name but it works, you can get it in 7/11 as well, in a green box, 3 for 70 baht.

[GarryP]

Just a quick update. Despite Dr. Chucheep being listed in the after hours clinic at Chula, he is not available at such clinic. If you want to see him at Chula Hospital you must see him during normal government office hours.   

[GarryP]

On 11/11/2019 at 4:00 PM, GarryP said:

Just a quick update. Despite Dr. Chucheep being listed in the after hours clinic at Chula, he is not available at such clinic. If you want to see him at Chula Hospital you must see him during normal government office hours.   

A further update. I learned this this doctor is only available at Chula OPD on Mondays and Thursdays during gov't office hours. I just registered with Chula earlier today and asked about making an appointment with a doctor, without revealing their identity. I was told that it is not possible to make an appointment in advance. I need to go to the hospital tomorrow to make the appointment and that there are a limited number of queue tickets available. When asked what time I needed to be there, I was told 5:30 a.m. otherwise I may not be able to get a queue number for that day. (Disclaimer - I do not know whether the relevant department is particularly busy or this particular doctor, when compared to other departments/doctors).       

[SteveK]

On 11/2/2019 at 1:56 PM, atyclb said:

 

haemorrhoids do not go away, they can become asymptomatic. 

Mine went away. I would recommend suppositories with a steroid in them, they work much faster and a lot more effectively than the creams. I found that the creams gave some relief but you absolutely needed the suppositories to clear the issue. I used Uniroids-HC, brilliant product.

[atyclb]

1 hour ago, SteveK said:

On 11/2/2019 at 1:56 PM, atyclb said:

 

haemorrhoids do not go away, they can become asymptomatic. 

Mine went away. I would recommend suppositories with a steroid in them, they work much faster and a lot more effectively than the creams. I found that the creams gave some relief but you absolutely needed the suppositories to clear the issue. I used Uniroids-HC, brilliant product.

 

how did you differentiate "going away" versus becoming "asymptomatic"

[SteveK]

3 hours ago, atyclb said:

 

how did you differentiate "going away" versus becoming "asymptomatic"

It's not difficult. I suffered with them for a few years and they never came back after successful treatment.

 

I was married to a doctor who suffered with haemorrhoids so I know that they can and do clear up.

 

Mine did.

[brokenbone]

On 10/31/2019 at 3:38 PM, Gecko123 said:

Increase fiber in your diet and thoroughly chew your food. Henry Ford attributed his longevity to chewing his food until it was liquid.

i inhale food and next to never chew on it before i swallow,

that works too, i like to think of it as giving the stomach more stuff to

work with so no need to worry about fibers