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I am thinking of moving from Chiang Mai to Chiang Rai. I would like some feedback from posters, including those who have experience in both cities.

 

Questions include, feel free to add:

 

1/ How does CR Immigration compare with CM Immigration in terms of user-friendly?

 

2/ Availability of Western breakfasts and coffee shops in CR? They seem to open late compared to CM.

 

3/ Recommendations for hospitals and dental clinics? Any I should avoid in CR?

 

4/ How does CR compare with CM in terms of air quality during the smoke season?

 

5/ What is cheaper, and what is more expensive, in CR compared to CM?

 

6/ How frequent are daily flights to Bangkok from CR compared to CM?

 

7/ Where is the cheapest golf, in terms of membership and visitor green fees, in Chiang Rai?

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What are your impressions?

What did you experience that makes you want to move there?

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15 minutes ago, JimmyJ said:

What are your impressions?

What did you experience that makes you want to move there?

Quieter. Not as many Western restaurants. Not much night life, although I'm at the stage of my life where I don't need that.

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The topic is Chiang Mai vs Chiang Rai, stick to it please.

 

 

 

 

 

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The cheapest golf is a little poorly-kept nine-hole course on the south side where the airport was many years ago. The army course is pretty cheap, too, but in slightly better condition. Santiburi is gorgeous, designed by Robert Trent Jones, and always immaculate. They have an annual membership that makes it economical to play there. Reply here or PM me and I will check with my friend who is a member.

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I would say the Rai every time

Probably because it is where i chose to make my home !

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32 minutes ago, LawrenceN said:

The cheapest golf is a little poorly-kept nine-hole course on the south side where the airport was many years ago. The army course is pretty cheap, too, but in slightly better condition. Santiburi is gorgeous, designed by Robert Trent Jones, and always immaculate. They have an annual membership that makes it economical to play there. Reply here or PM me and I will check with my friend who is a member.

I'm not  golfer but go out to Santiburi for lunch a couple of times a year, just sitting on that upstairs deck looking at the fairways is a truly enjoyable experience.

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1 hour ago, LawrenceN said:

The cheapest golf is a little poorly-kept nine-hole course on the south side where the airport was many years ago. The army course is pretty cheap, too, but in slightly better condition. Santiburi is gorgeous, designed by Robert Trent Jones, and always immaculate. They have an annual membership that makes it economical to play there. Reply here or PM me and I will check with my friend who is a member.

I'd be interested in knowing the membership joining fee and annual subscription at Santiburi, although I fear it would be beyond my budget. I've played it a couple of times, expensive as a visitor. I'd agree it is probably the best course in Northern Thailand, including Chiang Mai.

I was formerly a member of the National Golf Club in Australia. That has a Robert Trent Jones design, the Old Course. Common design features, such as the use of visual intimidation, and greens that demand the approach shot is in the right position.

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Moving from CM to CR would be a very very strange idea unless you like to be even more quiet, have less things and services etc. 
Would not see how it saves you any money either, you can find the same 'lower range' within / around CM if desired.

If it because you are bored in CM, CR will bore you even more. Leaving entirely from the north makes more sense in that case.
Also you will pay more for flights, most likely, all the time.

Not see how immigration would be different too, aside of perhaps a 1 hour shorter wait, same yearly thing regardless. 
Air quality worse or the same, coffeeshops enough but limited in terms of western food compared to here. 

For golf you have more options, including cheap ones, in CM too. Basically like moving to China town of the north, certainly in near future.

To sum it up: A pointless move unless you did it because of the wife coming from there / building or having a free house there already.
(It is great for 2-3 days, twice a year though)

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CR is not as large as CM city, but too many Chinese tourists all around, if you plan to stick to city center. 

Good luck 🙂

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since you say you are in ChiangMai, you should be able to answer most questions yourself.
for example, Number of Flights is on the internet.

In CR instead of 3 Centrals there is one; two Big-C's.
Real estate is maybe a bit cheaper.
Air: most of the time better than CM proper, and in burning season I'd say at par.
Traffic:
in CR traffic moves, gets a bit congested on one road between 4 and 5 p.m..
Unlike in CM where driving after 3 p.m. is almost impossible. 
Medical care
is, according to some teaching staff at CMU Sripat, in some Hospitals good.
Dental care, see above.
IO
follow the rules as anywhere.

Suggestion: 
get on the Green Bus, motorbike or behind the wheel, book a room for a month or three, live in CR and see if it is for you.
nothing like your own opinion.

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