webfact Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 Fake silicone fingerprints used to get tourists into condo block, claim angry residents Thai caption: Fake silicone fingerprints Residents of a condo development in Sukhumvit Road, Bangkok have claimed that fake silicone fingerprints are being used to get tourists into the building bypassing security systems. This is allegedly happening at a block where earlier in the year there were complaints about Chinese tour groups illegally being allowed to rent by the day. They were using the condo in Ekamai (Soi 63) just like a hotel, something that has angered residents. The claims that the "finger scan" security was being compromised appeared on Facebook on a site called "Condo Dark Side" said Sanook. The post said that the Juristic Person had done nothing to address the concerns of residents since midyear. A meeting was being planned to sack them. The post suggested that Wattana district officials and immigration should visit the block again. Source: Sanook -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2019-11-06 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kotsak Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 Mission Impossible.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyboy2018 Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 They can run but they cant hide! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 If I rented a room online and found out that I needed a fake fingerprint to get in, I think I'd find somewhere else to stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RotBenz8888 Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 1 hour ago, webfact said: bypassing security systems. Maybe replace security system...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Deerhunter Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 9 minutes ago, impulse said: If I rented a room online and found out that I needed a fake fingerprint to get in, I think I'd find somewhere else to stay. Yes, but you are a rich Westerner, the kind who they don't want here any more. Honest folk like you are NOT the target audience! There are numerous ethnic groups who are the tourist target now, some few???? of whom might not share your moral scruples to save a buck. Or some other overseas currency,..... perhaps!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinKal Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 I dont believe the technology exists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbi1 Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 A possible way to get around the biometric security scanning at the airports too. Put on some fake silicone fingerprints lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 IF (Big If) it is true that fake fingerprints can defeat scanners ... this is a game changer for many, many systems ... Office buildings, airports, condos ... front doors on SO many places! Mind boggling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metempsychotic Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 4 hours ago, RotBenz8888 said: Maybe replace security system...? With what, retinal scanners? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metempsychotic Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 19 minutes ago, bangkokequity said: IF (Big If) it is true that fake fingerprints can defeat scanners ... this is a game changer for many, many systems ... Office buildings, airports, condos ... front doors on SO many places! Mind boggling. There is no doubt it would work, unless the scanners were temperature sensitive, and even then keeping the silicon somewhere nice and warm would likely bypass that. As for airports, you need to place your hands on the device in front of an officer, so unless alot of effort to create a lifelike glove were made its not feasible. Also, the silicone finger needs to be made from an impression of an actual finger as the scanner scans the ridges, not easily done without the owners knowledge. In fact about as difficult or more difficult than having a key cut on the sly, or duplicating a key card - it is possible, but neither practical nor likely without consent or ninja skillz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borzandy Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 What is not fake in Thailand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
from the home of CC Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 4 hours ago, impulse said: If I rented a room online and found out that I needed a fake fingerprint to get in, I think I'd find somewhere else to stay. you would think eh? cheap ass tourists lol.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RotBenz8888 Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 5 hours ago, webfact said: fake silicone fingerprints are being used to get tourists into the building bypassing security systems. To bypass the security guard, fake silicone breasts might do the trick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 18 minutes ago, bangkokequity said: IF (Big If) it is true that fake fingerprints can defeat scanners ... this is a game changer for many, many systems ... Office buildings, airports, condos ... front doors on SO many places! Mind boggling. But the first thing you need is for someone with authorized fingerprints to allow you to make a silicone copy. And to be responsible for any time the copy is abused, because it's traceable back to them. I don't think it's as dire as all that. Or you can go the Mission Impossible way and take a copy while they're knocked out and sleeping... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansnl Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 4 hours ago, impulse said: If I rented a room online and found out that I needed a fake fingerprint to get in, I think I'd find somewhere else to stay. Yes, me too. But presumably you are not Chinese? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LALes Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 This is what happens when "hotel" sites like Air BnB are allowed to operate with out impunity. No regard for condo owners. Just make as much as you can. Neighbors be damned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasThBKK Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 1 hour ago, bangkokequity said: IF (Big If) it is true that fake fingerprints can defeat scanners ... this is a game changer for many, many systems ... Office buildings, airports, condos ... front doors on SO many places! Mind boggling. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/dec/30/hacker-fakes-german-ministers-fingerprints-using-photos-of-her-hands Of course it works. Biometrics can never work for authentication, everyone telling you otherwise is a charlatan. It's an inherently bad system, a password you can change but your fingerprints you can't, once they are stolen you are rekt. Biometrics are the next stupid thing after IOT and Smart homes, everyone working in IT security is warning since decades but the masses are just too braindead so it falls on deaf ears... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 1 hour ago, bangkokequity said: IF (Big If) it is true that fake fingerprints can defeat scanners ... this is a game changer for many, many systems ... Office buildings, airports, condos ... front doors on SO many places! Mind boggling. Only if you can get hold of the original fingers in order to get perfect impressions of the prints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkkthebest Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 Once again, it the China Chinese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkkthebest Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 They should use eyeball pairing with finger print.. Then I wonder if the eyeball can be stolen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 22 minutes ago, LALes said: This is what happens when "hotel" sites like Air BnB are allowed to operate with out impunity. No regard for condo owners. Just make as much as you can. Neighbors be damned. "...when "hotel" sites like Air BnB are allowed to operate with out impunity". Huh? Operating "with out impunity" [sic] would be a bit onerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beggar Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 36 minutes ago, LALes said: This is what happens when "hotel" sites like Air BnB are allowed to operate with out impunity. No regard for condo owners. Just make as much as you can. Neighbors be damned. AirBnB is just a booking platform and it is not the only one. You have to punish the people renting out the rooms if they don't obey laws. Instead of using AirBnB they also could advertise in a newspaper or create their own website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 1 hour ago, metempsychotic said: There is no doubt it would work, unless the scanners were temperature sensitive, and even then keeping the silicon somewhere nice and warm would likely bypass that. As for airports, you need to place your hands on the device in front of an officer, so unless alot of effort to create a lifelike glove were made its not feasible. Also, the silicone finger needs to be made from an impression of an actual finger as the scanner scans the ridges, not easily done without the owners knowledge. In fact about as difficult or more difficult than having a key cut on the sly, or duplicating a key card - it is possible, but neither practical nor likely without consent or ninja skillz These are all good points ... however ... I was looking at the next step ... simply gaining a fingerprint ... ans using technology to duplicate it in a way a scanner would accept it. I do see that as an achievable task ... if the prize is worth the effort. However, in this context, have to say you are spot on and will only work if someone gives you the finger. oh wait ... that did not come out right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasThBKK Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 47 minutes ago, Just Weird said: Only if you can get hold of the original fingers in order to get perfect impressions of the prints. That's what our superior politicians said, and then they got rekt: https://www.wired.com/2008/03/hackers-publish/ Now everyone has his finterprints. It's extremely easy to copy a fingerprint, can be even done from photos. Zero security - unlike a proper access card. You can even create masterkeys that work with all of these sloppy bs systems...: https://thenextweb.com/artificial-intelligence/2018/11/15/researchers-create-master-key-fingerprints-that-can-fool-biometric-databases/ Everything is broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee4Life Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 2 hours ago, Borzandy said: What is not fake in Thailand? Me! I really am me! I swear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scot123 Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 6 hours ago, MartinKal said: I dont believe the technology exists Some years ago when this tech was first used to unlock mobiles it was a matter of days or was it a few weeks people had discovered if the put a silicon base on their finger they could open someone else's phone. They found that the last fingerprint would be read, it was that easy and it is not high tech. Just did a quick search: This instruction will show you how to Fool a fingerprint security system as easy as ABC. IBM never want you to know about,. it works for most of the fingerprint security system too. For example: eg. door, mobile phone.... Its just so easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
don long Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 When will immigration raid the Base in Pattaya it’s like a Chinese tour groups in and out hourly there... there’s a sign “no daily rentals” completely ignored. More than a 100 listings in Airbnb. Come on guys, I dropped my listing long ago. Or we must not discourage the Chinese? The listing even say Chinese Spoken only.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skallywag Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 I think magnetic key cards could be improved to offer better security. Would have to implant a gps chip so owners cannot purchase more by saying "I lost my key card" and then use it for renting out his condo. The gps in the magnetic key card would have to be "tied" to owners phone somehow also No more illegal Booking.com, or AirBnB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendijk Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 8 hours ago, impulse said: If I rented a room online and found out that I needed a fake fingerprint to get in, I think I'd find somewhere else to stay. You'll be amazed how far those short term tourists are willing to go for the 'owner' of the facility they are renting. The most common thing we are hearing in our village is that they are 'friends' or 'family' of the owner. These people are all ignorant. They have no clue how dangerous it is what they doing. God forbid a fire ever breaks out in those illegal airbnb/daily rental places condo or house. Most of them are very cheaply and quickly renovated because 6-16 people have to be housed for a couple of nights. Imagine how the electricity system can get easily overloaded with the way things are build here. If something happens, the 'tourist' will be left completely in the dark. No insurances, no official licenses or governmental bodies to complain to or get help from. In the meantime Airbnb and Booking.com(expedia) are laughing all the way to the bank ???? I don't think it matters how many dead tourists this country produces every year. This government will never get of its Behind. Mai Bpen Rai right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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