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40 minutes ago, Langsuan Man said:

He also can have another year when he won't have to buy worthless Thai Health insurance, and he can think about that as well as saving a bunch of Baht 

Or he can switch to a non-O which was my original point. Given all the knowledge about the insurance requirement in mid October I think going the non-O route would have been a better choice than an O-A.

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I have an O-A visa issued in London March 2019, before the insurance requirement cut off date. I have booked a trip to Cambodia  to coincide with the expiry of the visa and will return in time to be stamped in for my one year extension. I actually have 5m baht cover with one of the recognised companies which expires in September but I opted to forgo outpatient cover as it gave me a 20% discount, meaning it doesn't fully conform to the new requirements. Do I need to bring the policy or certificate with me to show at immigration or do I even need it at all as my visa was issued before October 30th 2019 and I am therefore currently exempt. Im sure it already been asked in here but the thread is 137 pages long tia.

 

Secondly assuming I dont need to show insurance for my extension my plan is upon renewal of my insurance in September to purchase just to the expiry of my extension in March 2021 and from then on to purchase a years insurance every year at extension time.

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Jim P said:

I have an O-A visa issued in London March 2019, before the insurance requirement cut off date. I have booked a trip to Cambodia  to coincide with the expiry of the visa and will return in time to be stamped in for my one year extension. I actually have 5m baht cover with one of the recognised companies which expires in September but I opted to forgo outpatient cover as it gave me a 20% discount, meaning it doesn't fully conform to the new requirements. Do I need to bring the policy or certificate with me to show at immigration or do I even need it at all as my visa was issued before October 30th 2019 and I am therefore currently exempt. Im sure it already been asked in here but the thread is 137 pages long tia.

 

Secondly assuming I dont need to show insurance for my extension my plan is upon renewal of my insurance in September to purchase just to the expiry of my extension in March 2021 and from then on to purchase a years insurance every year at extension time.

 

 

 

I would say that your policy doesn’t matter at this time if it doesn’t conform.

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They won't look at your policy documents. If they ask for anything it will be a certificate signed by insurer saying you have a policy which meets Imm requirements which of course you don't have.

 

As your visa was issued before the effective date and is atill valud you should be exempt but this point is a bit unclear especially for a second entry.

 

If they decide you can't enter for lack of approved insurance what they will usuallt do is give you a 30 day visa exempt entry which would at least give you time to get an aporoved pilicy. Assuming you are under 75 and have no major health problems you can then buy a local policy.

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39 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

They won't look at your policy documents. If they ask for anything it will be a certificate signed by insurer saying you have a policy which meets Imm requirements which of course you don't have.

 

As your visa was issued before the effective date and is atill valud you should be exempt but this point is a bit unclear especially for a second entry.

 

If they decide you can't enter for lack of approved insurance what they will usuallt do is give you a 30 day visa exempt entry which would at least give you time to get an aporoved pilicy. Assuming you are under 75 and have no major health problems you can then buy a local policy.

Cool, I think I will just leave things as they are for now and in September when my insurance is up for renewal I shall add the outpatient and sync it with my extension renewal date. Worst case scenario appears to be they issue me with a 30 day exempt visa on my return which would give me plenty of time to add outpatient to my existing policy.

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still don't get why the force the high outpatient , which increases your insurance a lot

 

I always paid outpatient out of pocket

 

and I really prefer to pay on the go, aka...if I need, I pay, otherwise big SCAM

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My cousin ,she is 84 ,is trying to get Visa from London to visit at end of the month she has plane tickets already

she is going to stay for 2 months,and extend that for 30 days, หลักการแทงมวยระดับมืออาชืพ

หลักการแทงมวยออนไลน์ที่ดีที่สุด 2020

will that be an O-A visa ?? ?,she will already have UK insurance cover.she has a neighbour trying to get the E Visa,but proving very difficult,if they hit her with requiring to get Thai insurance, she will never come again. regards worgeordie 

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1 minute ago, RatchanonWS said:

My cousin ,she is 84 ,is trying to get Visa from London to visit at end of the month she has plane tickets already

she is going to stay for 2 months,and extend that for 30 days,

หลักการแทงมวยออนไลน์ที่ดีที่สุด 2020

will that be an O-A visa ?? ?,she will already have UK insurance cover.she has a neighbour trying to get the E Visa,but proving very difficult,if they hit her with requiring to get Thai insurance, she will never come again. regards worgeordie

Try to get a tourist visa valid 2 months , that can be extended here in Thailand and a good travel insurance from UK.

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25 minutes ago, RatchanonWS said:

My cousin ,she is 84 ,is trying to get Visa from London to visit at end of the month she has plane tickets already

she is going to stay for 2 months,and extend that for 30 days, หลักการแทงมวยระดับมืออาชืพ

หลักการแทงมวยออนไลน์ที่ดีที่สุด 2020

will that be an O-A visa ?? ?,she will already have UK insurance cover.she has a neighbour trying to get the E Visa,but proving very difficult,if they hit her with requiring to get Thai insurance, she will never come again. regards worgeordie 

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As said that would be a normal tourist visa and no insurance is required.  What kind of UK insurance would she have to cover here?  Or do you mean she will obtain travel insurance in UK to cover the trip?

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On 1/24/2020 at 8:32 AM, Sheryl said:

They won't look at your policy documents. If they ask for anything it will be a certificate signed by insurer saying you have a policy which meets Imm requirements which of course you don't have.

That's correct.  When re-entering on a still valid pre Oct 31, 2019 issued Non Imm OA Visa, border-immigration will simply stamp you in for the full year that OA Visa entitles you to.  When re-entering after your Visa validity has expired, you will be stamped in again for the remainder of your permission to stay provided you have a Re-Entry Permit that keeps that permission to stay alive.

 

On 1/24/2020 at 8:32 AM, Sheryl said:

As your visa was issued before the effective date and is still valid you should be exempt but this point is a bit unclear especially for a second entry.

After the initial confusion early November about the need for Health-Insurance when entering or re-entering Thailand on a pre Oct 31, 2019 issued OA Visa, there have been NO reports of people being queried - let alone denied - for the IO-approved health-insurance.  And rightfully so as it is not required. 

 

On 1/24/2020 at 8:32 AM, Sheryl said:

If they decide you can't enter for lack of approved insurance what they will usually do is give you a 30 day visa exempt entry which would at least give you time to get an approved policy. Assuming you are under 75 and have no major health problems you can then buy a local policy.

The issuing of a 30 day Visa Exempt entry when not being able to show IO-approved health-insurance, was practiced during the early November days when IO was totally confused about the issue.  As mentioned higher there are since then NO reports of pre Oct 31, 2019 OA Visa holders that have been denied.

If you turn out to be the proverbial case of the exception that proves the rule, and are provided with a 30 day Visa Exempt entry instead of the OA Visa entry you are entitled to, you should THINK TWICE about buying a local thai IO-approved health-insurance policy to meet the health-insurance requirement.

See attached link to that 'can of worms' >

 

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On 1/24/2020 at 9:17 AM, Jim P said:

Cool, I think I will just leave things as they are for now and in September when my insurance is up for renewal I shall add the outpatient and sync it with my extension renewal date. Worst case scenario appears to be they issue me with a 30 day exempt visa on my return which would give me plenty of time to add outpatient to my existing policy.

Hi Jim P,

There are other - and far better - options than subscribing to the thai IO-approved health-insurance scam in order to stay long-term in Thailand with your OA Visa/extension.  Switching to a Non Imm O - retirement Visa is surprisingly simple and the requirements / conditions are EXACTLY the same for an extension from that Non Imm O - retirement Visa, than for the Non Imm OA extension.  With the exception that in that case no THAI IO-APPROVED health-insurance will be required, which will allow you to choose an international or thai insurance-policy that meets your actual needs instead of succumbing to the exorbitantly expensive and basically worthless thai IO-approved HI-scam.

I did PM you a comprehensive roadmap outlining all details/options to apply for / convert to a Non Imm O - retirement Visa.  To access your PM-messages just click the letter-icon next to your profile when logged in to the Forum.

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1 hour ago, RatchanonWS said:

My cousin ,she is 84 ,is trying to get Visa from London to visit at end of the month she has plane tickets already

she is going to stay for 2 months,and extend that for 30 days, หลักการแทงมวยระดับมืออาชืพ

หลักการแทงมวยออนไลน์ที่ดีที่สุด 2020

will that be an O-A visa ?? ?,she will already have UK insurance cover.she has a neighbour trying to get the E Visa,but proving very difficult,if they hit her with requiring to get Thai insurance, she will never come again. regards worgeordie 

หลักการแทงมวยแบบเด็ดๆ

Best option would be for her to apply for a 60-day Single-Entry Tourist Visa (which can be extended in-country for another 60 days).

The on-line Visa application process has made it very difficult for UK citizens applying for Visa to Thailand.  But there are numerous threads on the Forum, dealing with the issues you might encounter (issues mainly of a practical nature, like pass-photo size being rejected when not exactly in the website required format).

If all else fails, she can also simply enter Thailand VisaExempt which will provide her with 30 days, which can be extended for another 30 days at any IO.  If she wants to stay longer she will then have to do a 'border-run' to get an additional VisaExempt entry.  Note: Such a border-run can of course be combined with a visit to a neighboring country, e.g. visiting Angkor Wat in Cambodia or Luang Prabang in Laos.

Also please note than when entering VisaExempt she would need an onward flight ticket within the 30 days of her arrival, but you buy on-line cheap one-way 'throw-away' tickets to international destinations for around 1.000 THB, so hardly an issue.

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12 hours ago, Peter Denis said:

Best option would be for her to apply for a 60-day Single-Entry Tourist Visa (which can be extended in-country for another 60 days).

Just to correct your typo error so as not to confuse @RatchanonWS

The 60 day Tourist visa entry can be extended by 30 days (not 60) giving a total stay of 90 days.

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13 hours ago, Peter Denis said:

Also please note than when entering VisaExempt she would need an onward flight ticket within the 30 days of her arrival, but you buy on-line cheap one-way 'throw-away' tickets to international destinations for around 1.000 THB, so hardly an issue.

A number of frequent visitors have told me an onward flight ticket within 30 days is not necessarily required by the airlines to board without a Visa.

They are fully aware those entering Visa exempt can extend for another 30 days, so a return ticket dated 45,50 or 60 days from the entry date is fully acceptable.

 

 

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16 hours ago, RatchanonWS said:

My cousin ,she is 84 ,is trying to get Visa from London to visit at end of the month she has plane tickets already

she is going to stay for 2 months,and extend that for 30 days, หลักการแทงมวยระดับมืออาชืพ

หลักการแทงมวยออนไลน์ที่ดีที่สุด 2020

will that be an O-A visa ?? ?,she will already have UK insurance cover.she has a neighbour trying to get the E Visa,but proving very difficult,if they hit her with requiring to get Thai insurance, she will never come again. regards worgeordie 

หลักการแทงมวยแบบเด็ดๆ

If your cousin receives state pension and has her DWP Pension letter, apply for a non-O single entry which will give her 90days entry. It is probably simpler to go to one of the consulates (though the weather is pretty bad for travelling just now), if having trouble populating the e-visa software.

I think travel insurance is about £430 for 60 days so maybe £550 plus for 90 days?? (The middle of the 3 options from where Dad gets his)

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