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American fugitive Bart Allen Helmus dies after shooting himself moments before arrest by Thai police

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16 hours ago, otherstuff1957 said:

OK, I am confused.  In this thread,

 

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1132561-thai-woman-who-escaped-from-pattaya-court-arrested-as-police-offer-50000-thb-reward/#comments

 

it says that she was caught alone about 13 hours ago.  Now this thread it says that she and her husband were caught together a couple of hours after noon. 

 

Which article is correct?

Oh dear, that's the Thai way of truth. Nowadays very popular also in other countries (USA, UK) 

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pattaya police deserve some credit for at least having working video cameras, better than the place watching "epstein"

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17 hours ago, otherstuff1957 said:

OK, I am confused.  In this thread,

 

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1132561-thai-woman-who-escaped-from-pattaya-court-arrested-as-police-offer-50000-thb-reward/#comments

 

it says that she was caught alone about 13 hours ago.  Now this thread it says that she and her husband were caught together a couple of hours after noon. 

 

Which article is correct?

Thai media performing at their usual level of accuracy 

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And who drove the getaway car?  (They fled to a waiting Isuzu pick up truck. )

I have some escaped's myself so i don't anderstand why thay get them again. Not such a good ascape after all...

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17 hours ago, balo said:

It's already been confirmed it was the Thai guy that was arrested alone, the wife was still with the American. So the local  news reported it wrong at first. 

So that report was fake news. will they be held accountable for fake coverage if the story. Where is the fine dividing line, who decides on these enigmatic lines of what is fake and what is not fake. Fake is fake fine the reporter 3,000 bt and 60,000 each for the media outlets that reported it ? 

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1 hour ago, champers said:

Latest news is he isn't dead after all.

Jesus Christ !!

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1 hour ago, jak2002003 said:
1 hour ago, Aussiepeter said:

As Langkawi has said, the courts in Thailand are highly suspect. Try this for size - and I am not making this up. About ten years ago I was enjoying a quiet beer on a Sunday night in a then famous Chiang Mai go-go bar. Quiet night, sat next to a bloke who turned out to be an expat from Oz. He explained that his Thai missus had convinced him to get involved with selling ya-ba, as her family had a connection. They made heaps he said, right up until they were dobbed in by a neighbour jealous of their lifestyle. He told me "the wife didn't have a lawyer, so she got 15 years, but I had all the money and got a very good lawyer and the judge gave me 12 months in jail". I asked him when he had got out of jail, to which he replied "I haven't yet - I've still got 4 months to go" ! When I sought further info, he told me his lawyer had made some sort of $deal with the boss of the CM prison, to let him out of prison at 1800 every Sunday night so he could get a feed of western food (and a bonk) on the strict proviso that he return, like Cinderella, before 2400 hours ! You couldn't make up stuff like this. Amazing Thailand. So liberated. 

Don't believe everything a drunk expat tells you in a go go bar.  

"You couldn't make up stuff like this".

Jak2002003 is right, you could!  Your pal in the bar clearly did. 

 

Where do you imagine he got the cash for a "feed and a bonk"?   As prisoners have no access to cash I suppose the "boss of the prison" gave it to him? 

 

How would he have got back into the prison at midnight; rang the front door bell to be welcomed back by the guards who would then have to strip search him, then access all the locked areas of the prison just so he could be locked up again with his inmate friends?

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18 hours ago, BestB said:

Like him or not, but turns out he was the only one with balls.

 

Also unsure if planned or not, but wifey with a good lawyer might just be able to walk free now.

 

Her defense could and should be , i was not involved, he was forcing me, he was a violent man, 

 

He is dead,so can not confirm/deny, he did shoot her, while she is pregnant, so evidence enough of being violent.

 

Might just get a few months or rehab and walk free.

 

May have been a hardcore criminal but may also have been a decent man to save her from life in jail.

You sound like a decent man, by the way you see this.

Best regards.

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Congratulations and well done to the Police.

They said that they would capture them and that is exactly what they did.

The more drug dealers off the streets cannot be a bad thing.

I hope he didn't pull the trigger himself as he deserved the pay back.

I am pleased the wife wasn't killed because she is pregnant. I agree with previous threads regarding her getting a good solicitor, however, I still hope she spends a a little time away on holiday in the "Bangkok Hilton" to pay for her part in the escape. She will be taught a good lesson serving her time.

 

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2 hours ago, champers said:

Latest news is he isn't dead after all.

Don't you mean latest "fake news"?

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4 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said:

Don't you mean latest "fake news"?

See the thread in Pattaya News section. I agree it is hard to know what is true and what is false.

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9 minutes ago, NoComment said:

Congratulations and well done to the Police.

They said that they would capture them and that is exactly what they did.

The more drug dealers off the streets cannot be a bad thing.

I hope he didn't pull the trigger himself as he deserved the pay back.

I am pleased the wife wasn't killed because she is pregnant. I agree with previous threads regarding her getting a good solicitor, however, I still hope she spends a a little time away on holiday in the "Bangkok Hilton" to pay for her part in the escape. She will be taught a good lesson serving her time.

 

 

Have you considered that she might be the one behind the whole thing?

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Did he shoot his wife but injured only ? I guess he knew how to use a gun. A suicide with wife looks differently. Would not be surprised if he shot himself into the back ...

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