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American fugitive Bart Allen Helmus dies after shooting himself moments before arrest by Thai police

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13 minutes ago, JamJar said:

 

Have you considered that she might be the one behind the whole thing?

we will see if she gets away with short jail time. very possible.

 

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3 hours ago, Nkpjed said:

So you honestly believe this piece of dog <deleted> was thinking about saving his wife from spending her life in jail when he shot himself in the head??!!!   Yeah he was probably a decent man.  He was so decent he had no hesitation stabbing a police officer to escape jail so he wouldn’t have to pay for his crimes.   Sounds like he was a real decent man.  He was going to spend his life in jail or be executed.  That’s what was going through his mind.  If he gave a rats ass about his wife he would have never dragged her into his sorry life of crime.

 

 

You are simply making it up as you go along. Your assumption that he dragged her into a life of crime for one.

Stabbing police officer to escape jail another. From the video it shows that the prison officer was fighting with one of them, then another came back(0:29) to assist the one fighting by stabbing the officer.

From the video alone, it is not clear who came back to do the stabbing. 

The Thai woman is likely more than just complicit. 

 

 

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8 minutes ago, P100 said:

Did he shoot his wife but injured only ? I guess he knew how to use a gun. A suicide with wife looks differently. Would not be surprised if he shot himself into the back ...

 

Take note that now they are stating that she is in a "grievous" condition.

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39 .? Tourist visa?  Income besides drug trafficking  ? Legit address  ? 

Warrant in the States  ? Entry card on record  ? Last 90 days check  ?

  I give up.  

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It is critically important to know whether all this fuss was over 1 kg (1.0000 kg) or 10000 (ten thousand) KG?

Helluva fuss if it was just a kilo, when there's so many bigger fish out there.

 

Probably a good photo-op job for catching a bottom-feeding farang dealer.

 

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19 hours ago, balo said:

Well sounds like a happy ending then , except for the couple. 
 

"Police confirmed they did not fire any shots at the suspects. "
We can only guess anyway.....


 

its like in france...over there every terror suspect die in a shoot out w. cops... dead sentence..?..well right on the spot....rushed to hospital...maybe on an old bycicle...

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He is not dead yet ? This is getting ridiculous.   

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1 hour ago, balo said:

He is not dead yet ? This is getting ridiculous.   

Indeed, he is dead, he is not dead . He shoots his wife but nothing serious , he shouts her in the head  

 He shoots himself prior to being arrested to he fires shots at police and then kills himself.

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5 hours ago, gerritkaew said:

And who drove the getaway car?  (They fled to a waiting Isuzu pick up truck. )

I have some escaped's myself so i don't anderstand why thay get them again. Not such a good ascape after all...

10 people were helping them, they claiming a 20 year old brought gun and knife into court  BS, how did he get it into court and how did he get into holding cells area ?

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I suppose the delivery to the hospital didn't help. For what I saw, they had little compation when they put him in the truck. I'm not really sure they wanted him alive.

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He doesn't seem so good ? Not even able to kill anyone correctly ?! Not even himself ?!

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I read this story and think that the American was a low life, druggie.

  I do not know what the Thai woman is like, but she seemed to not have made

great choices, marrying this jerk. Then when they are about to get caught,

he shoots her, but lucky for her she does not get a fatal shot. What kind of 

normal husband would do this. Come on, think about it.  No this jerk was just

that, did not want to die alone, so tries to kill his wife first. Complete loser in my

opinion. I am just glad the guy saved Thailand from having to house him in jail

and spend money on feeding him.

Geezer

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4 hours ago, Stargrazer9889 said:

I read this story and think that the American was a low life, druggie.

  I do not know what the Thai woman is like, but she seemed to not have made

great choices, marrying this jerk. Then when they are about to get caught,

he shoots her, but lucky for her she does not get a fatal shot. What kind of 

normal husband would do this. Come on, think about it.  No this jerk was just

that, did not want to die alone, so tries to kill his wife first. Complete loser in my

opinion. I am just glad the guy saved Thailand from having to house him in jail

and spend money on feeding him.

Geezer

She may well left with differing abilities and or acquired brain injuries from his actions should she survive, not to mention her unborn child

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There was an update in mgronline.com yesterday (07/11/19) from the director of Sa Kaeo Crown Prince Hospital where both patients are being treated.
The American man is reported to be brain dead but being kept alive via a ventilator. His pupils don't respond to light.
His Thai wife had surgery to relieve pressure on her brain and is expected to recover. She had told doctors at the hospital that her husband had shot her once on the right side of her head. The bullet hadn't penetrated very deeply so doctors had been able to remove it.
The hospital director also denied she is pregnant, contradicting previous media reports. Her cessation of menstruation had merely been caused by the stress she had been under for the past few months.

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