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2 hours ago, farmerjo said:

What do you think farmers here have 10,000 rai each and 500 horsepower tractors,your out of touch with farming here.

So let the Thai farmer on his/her family plot continue as their forebears did and eventually go bankrupt as the rest of the world modernises. If they want to produce for a local market/consumption then fine but if they want to produce for export then they have to collectively smarten up a bit!

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13 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

So let the Thai farmer on his/her family plot continue as their forebears did and eventually go bankrupt as the rest of the world modernises. If they want to produce for a local market/consumption then fine but if they want to produce for export then they have to collectively smarten up a bit!

Smarten up how exactly,i'm all ears.

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Farming in many areas is already a marginal activity. In my area (North and east of Udon Thani city) about half the farmland is not in use. Some is just left fallow for a year or two, but most is actually just unused. Owners just wait for the magical buyer who will pay 500,000 baht a rai and up to build on it. The land in use is mainly for family rice production  and scraps of land used for fruit and vegetable gardening. The rest of the derelict land sees occasional grazing by cattle.

 

Actually these bans will probably have only a small effect here as most of these small farmers do not use chemicals anyway (ours certainly do not). it is the middle sized farms which will struggle the most.

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8 minutes ago, rickudon said:

Actually these bans will probably have only a small effect here as most of these small farmers do not use chemicals anyway (ours certainly do not). it is the middle sized farms which will struggle the most.

You would be surprised. I had poor thai told me they use no chemicals that were spraying pesticides a couple weeks later. It's usually easy to know because they throw the empty bottles near the fields. 

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22 hours ago, neeray said:

"wider use of machines on the plantations"

At the risk of having my most deleted for binging up another country, I tender this thought as it is highly relevant to the thread.

I know squat about farming. But I used to own a home in Canadian farm country and am a good observer.

I was surrounded by farms, and drove many farm country roads to and from by business in the city. It was common to see massive machinery going from farm to farm to service each one. Probably no one farmer could justify the use of a (up to) million dollar machine just for his own farm. I don't know the infrastructure of this but it seemed to operate like a co-op.

No doubt this is already practised to some degree in Thailand, both person-power and equipment.

That said, what a shame that the concept couldn't be expanded drastically in Thailand to work under the new constraints.

Massive farm equipment to share with those who feed some 65 million + people would be a much more appreciated expenditure than subs, tanks and Stryker vehicles.

Food for thought (pun intended).

 

i live in a farming community back home and exactly the same is true; the farmers work together at key times, share machinery, know how and labour - all it needs i bit of organisation, forward thinking and participation of all for the good of all 

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If I were a farmer I would be buying all the banned chemicals I could....Stocking up with a 10 year supply....Show me a better way and I will gladly ditch the chemicals....

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1 hour ago, fforest1 said:

If I were a farmer I would be buying all the banned chemicals I could....Stocking up with a 10 year supply....Show me a better way and I will gladly ditch the chemicals....

They don't have money to begin with. 

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1 hour ago, fforest1 said:

If I were a farmer I would be buying all the banned chemicals I could....Stocking up with a 10 year supply....Show me a better way and I will gladly ditch the chemicals....

Sold out weeks ago in our area. Farmers have no idea what they will be doing next month as the alternatives are hugely more expensive.

I asked for the glyphosate replacement and it was over 10 times the cost of Roundup.

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"""" Meanwhile, the Department of Agriculture will study the possibility of shipping remaining stocks of the banned chemicals before December 1 to countries that still use them to avoid the high disposal cost of up to Bt100,000 per tonne. """"

 

 Everyone knows this country US, orange man will not happy

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1 hour ago, islandguy said:

Has anyone on this forum actually seen in the last 10 years buffalo used for plowing by real farmers in their fields?

Iron buffalo's he means.

A small walk behind tractor usually 10-14 horsepower.

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