Bilingual schooling planned to boost English proficiency

[Gashead 27]

I pay around 50K a year for my 6 year old to have english, math, science taught in english by a non-asian teacher.  It started off well as the teacher was english with a teaching background.  Inevitably the school p1ssed him off and he left (along with another english guy).  They were replaced by Russians...... Their english is terrible and I am constantly correcting bad pronunciation.  I will be pulling him out next year and putting him back in the main stream.  If this is the standard I get a paying at a good school, I can only imagine what government schools with limited budgets will get.

[CosmicSurfer 66]

10 hours ago, Orton Rd said:

 

Pretty sure I read about 4 years ago the govt did a survey of all Thais teaching English and found only a handful were actually fluent in it, many cannot actually speak it at all. Just a guess but that might be a bit of the problem.

As an x-English teacher in Bangkok, I can assure you that MOST Thai English Teachers can NOT speak English very well... But They do know their Grammar rules... They bring in the native speakers to handle Conversation!!

CS

Edited November 9 by CosmicSurfer

[Benmart 4,178]

Seemingly, all the talk about improvement is in a foreign language that few can understand. The language is called "Hot air".

[lostmebike 1,364]

 

13 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

“We have already prepared the budget to support the programme through to 2021,

 ...  and one wonders will happen to all that extra 'budget'. New cars, brown envelopes and kiks aplenty. 

 

 

 

 

And here, we have finally have it ... Thailand's Archilles heel - 'management'.

13 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

but it needed, among other improvements, better education management.

[Pilotman 8,949]

13 hours ago, Momofarang said:

On the Subcontinent obviously, there there are as many English speakers as in the rest of the World.

Yes, but most are not native speakers and  not a lot of them qualified to teach.  They will end up just as badly off as they are now.  They could easily remove the stupid age restrictions on teachers, so that the many retired native speakers who live here can teach.  As usual here, it's all talk, smoke and mirrors.  

[Cadbury 16,594]

13 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Education Minister Nataphol Teepsuwan said on Friday that a bilingual curriculum – in Thai and English – would be in place from kindergarten up at more than 2,000 district schools starting in academic year 2020.

These little kindi tadpoles are going to be busy. Not only will they have a new curriculum for learning computer language and to write computer programmes but they will now have a Thai and English bilingual language curriculum to study up on as well. Good luck kids, the excellence of your teachers will see you through.

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/education-ministry-to-push-for-coding-as-third-language-for-thai-students/

[Pilotman 8,949]

58 minutes ago, Gashead said:

I pay around 50K a year for my 6 year old to have english, math, science taught in english by a non-asian teacher.  It started off well as the teacher was english with a teaching background.  Inevitably the school p1ssed him off and he left (along with another english guy).  They were replaced by Russians...... Their english is terrible and I am constantly correcting bad pronunciation.  I will be pulling him out next year and putting him back in the main stream.  If this is the standard I get a paying at a good school, I can only imagine what government schools with limited budgets will get.

This is a real problem that the Thais have to tackle, none native speakers, who think they can teach English when they can barely speak the language themselves.  Its a joke. No doubt to meet this new 'aspiration' they will employ hundreds of these so called teachers of English, so the kids will be no better off. 

[Number 6 1,602]

If they can get trained and degreed Filipino teachers that would cover the body count but in in my six years of teaching I've only ran into about 3-4 decent teachers in mathayom. I think they are suited best for pratom personally. In my experience they are often very poor subject teachers.

 

I think Scandanavians could be lumped in with what are now NES but I would not consider South Africans. Still NNES. There are some very clever Indians. Many women i tnink could be very enticed to comebto  Thailand and teach. Also think each teacher create a pronunciation video to check speech. All speakers NES included.

 

 

Top salaries in 99% of public schools is 43k pm no bonus.

 

Offering say 37.5 tax free with good insurance from schools. Then the government paying stipend direct to teacher for housing, transport @ 12.5k. 50k would attract many westerners.

 

Post graduate course teaching and education. Allow outside university in Singapore or Hong Kong to develop and run it.

 

Very inexpensive and simple method to renew license.

 

One standard 12 month holidays. Clear cut paid breaks and PD downtime.

 

Allow sabbatical for the cream of teachers to go to top 5 universities and collaborate on Education issues with Thai counterparts.

 

Allowing foreigners to form their own department within the school for autonomy with foreign HoD and one Thai admin.

Edited November 9 by Number 6

[newnative 3,411]

  Hopefully, it will be a start towards working on improving the dismal ranking Thailand has.  I'd like to see more broadcast shows with English subtitles--and vica versa.  I noticed in the article that the program is only funded through 2021--not a good sign if you are planning on starting the students at kindergarten and having them go through high school with the program.  

[Cadbury 16,594]

A year or so ago I kept company with a female English teacher at a vocational school. She spoke good English except for a few common pronunciation errors.

She was telling me the story of how her school director got rid of the qualified foreign English teachers so she could replace them with Filipino teachers. Reason being that she personally received a healthy commission from the employment agency for new Filipino appointees. 

Someone pointed out that the imported Filipino English teachers are the rejects from the call centres applicants.

Corruption and greed is top priority and is killing the education system. 

[kwonitoy 598]

1 hour ago, Gashead said:

I pay around 50K a year for my 6 year old to have english, math, science taught in english by a non-asian teacher.  It started off well as the teacher was english with a teaching background.  Inevitably the school p1ssed him off and he left (along with another english guy).  They were replaced by Russians...... Their english is terrible and I am constantly correcting bad pronunciation.  I will be pulling him out next year and putting him back in the main stream.  If this is the standard I get a paying at a good school, I can only imagine what government schools with limited budgets will get.

I'm at about 80K per year for an 8 year old.

Two teachers per class, one thai one native english speaker.

Previous teacher's were mostly young americans doing a year or two

Now being slowly replace by Filipino ladies, three so far. One I talked to spoke very good english, the other two were clueless.

End of the school year we're back to my home country

[Number 6 1,602]

12 hours ago, Slip said:

I am suggesting that as the country is already awash with Filipino teachers it could be achieved with a little extra investment.

 

I agree entirely that the chances of such a plan existing are less than high.

EDIT: And apologies cmarshall.  I had not specifically mentioned that example, which was kind of central to my point.

 

Looking on ajarn dot com you'll see literally hundreds of Filipinos looking for work as teachers. Most, judging by appearance I would not hire. Pretty much all the westerners I would not hire.

Edited November 9 by Number 6

[nickstav 1,415]

Several years ago my girlfriend took the English classes at the YMCA in Chiang Mai (which is rated one of the best in Chiang Mai). The first few modules were taught by "English speaking" Thais, before being taught by Farangs in later modules. She would show me her workbook and what the teacher was having them do. I was always telling her "this is wrong, this is not how we speak or write" ( one of my university degrees is in English literature). She mentioned this to the teacher, who told her don't listen to him and don't have him teach you anything. Huh?

[bananafish 338]

14 hours ago, taichiplanet said:

too late, better off teaching Chinese or Hindi,

Yea that's a great idea, that way they'll speak either Chinese or Hindi, and still have to learn English to fulfil the point of this initiative. 

[overherebc 16,428]

Revolutionary idea. !!

Give the kids books to read in english and let them ask the teacher questions, in english, about the words and phrases they don't understand.

Yes, I know, I know, they are not allowed to ask questions.