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6 hours ago, 30la said:

No, not 74th in the world, 74th of 100 countries that took the test.
In the world, Thailand is far worse off!
I have the "pleasure" of living near a school, the English lesson is held in the playground where all the students (hundreds) are present, the teachers speak very poor English I would say!
My wife who was in the same school introduced me to her English teacher a few years ago, she barely knew, good morning and good evening!
Important is that MAYBE you have recognized how important the English language is!

Don't exaggerate.

 

How can an English teacher who teaches for six years not be able to speak simple words like good morning?

 

I can understand if they can't make a complex sentence correctly but to say simple words...it's easy peasy for everyone not just teachers.

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'English Speakers'  is not the same as 'English Teachers'.

 

Knowing how to teach is just as important as what to teach,  and the 'Conversational' English, which is the limit for many of us, is hardly adequate for a serious teaching role.     

 

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5 hours ago, Slip said:

Impossible to say- too many variables.

I agree. So I don’t understand why the new terminology- bilingual.  More confusion I guess. 

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On 11/8/2019 at 7:08 PM, snoop1130 said:

“The ministry is currently developing a plan to resolve the issue and hopes it will be able to meet the needs of the labour market, while the country has to prepare for the rise in investment resulting from opening up in the future,” said Nataphol.

I wonder what is exactly this ''opening up''   🤔

 

What is exactly going to be opened, the country? The economy? And to who?

the chineses? The indians?

It seems they have a long term plan for the country

but they are still very mysterious about it

it's a bit scary imo

 

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I think the problem arises that many Thai students dont want to learn English. In fact many dont want to learn nothing at all. My step daughter for instance goes to learn English at a university She has an Indonesian man Teaching her English. After 6 months I think her English skills are zero and she understand hardly a word in English. In fact her mother talks better English than her and i taught her how to speak English in 6 months and hold a conversation in English.That is why I am a firm believer that the person teaching English at Thai schools must be a native speaker 

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To fix this someone would have to fire thousands and thousands of middle aged, uneducated, deeply inculcated "teachers" who dominate the educational space and gobble up funds, programs and reforms like papaya salad. All of those families would collapse. The teachers would not be able to find any other jobs. 

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19 hours ago, Orton Rd said:

But it is not the language of medicine, science, aviation, navigation, international economy or most of the internet.

Well then, they have done an excellent job of limiting access! 

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The Ministry should look carefully at the "english" speakers that are employeed in English speaking roles.

 

Amongst the Thais, the level of proficiency is generally poor.

 

Amongst the foreigners employed, many have heavily accented speech.   I have encountered a number from my country, England, who teach English in Thailand and whose strong regional dialects makes it extremely difficult to understand.

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Speaking English is one thing, but thinking in the way of a western culture would also be important if the goal is to improve competitive edge 'over there'.

I'm really trying hard to speak natural English with my wife and slap my own wrist when I fall back into using their version 'my sister she go do air' (My sister is going to have to stay at home from 3pm as she's getting air conditioning installed') - made that up, but everyone here will get the gist.

Get better at Thai for our job, or better at English for their part.

Then there are the accents ... OMG last time I had to go to BKK I felt like I'd just got off the boat (being an Isaan guy).
 

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my daughter goes to SARASAS international program

 

the RECEPTION in live or on the phone DOES NOT SPEAK A WORD OF ENGLISH !

 

good publicity

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5 hours ago, ubon farang said:

I think the problem arises that many Thai students dont want to learn English. In fact many dont want to learn nothing at all. My step daughter for instance goes to learn English at a university She has an Indonesian man Teaching her English. After 6 months I think her English skills are zero and she understand hardly a word in English. In fact her mother talks better English than her and i taught her how to speak English in 6 months and hold a conversation in English.That is why I am a firm believer that the person teaching English at Thai schools must be a native speaker 

 

I think the problem arises that many Thai students dont want to learn English. In fact many dont want to learn nothing at all. (sic)

 

but i digress, having worked at a high level in education and EFL education i can assure you the the ability and effectiveness of an EFL teacher has nothing to do with being a native speaker, indeed some of the best EFL teachers are non-native speakers.

 

as evidence; the british council, who inspects and accredits EFL providers in the uk and abroad, makes no stipulation whatsoever about an EFL teacher having to be a native speaker.

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13 minutes ago, shadowmaster1971 said:

Or maybe a reference to English Tort law.

Injustice in German.

I was just playing with the accent.

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On 11/9/2019 at 12:26 PM, hotchilli said:

So stop employing Thai teachers who have no capacity for teaching English after leaving University training.

Stop employing foreign teachers whose language skills are less than adequate.
Start by raising the standards of teachers and the students may have half a chance at a decent education.

Past years have seen an endless supply of the no-fail Thai system passing off new teachers as qualified, and an endless stream of foreign teachers who cannot speak the English language enough to teach it.

I have been told by a native Thai that those wishing to work for the government that the bottom of the barrel is school teacher. Those that can not qualify for any other job end up being teachers.

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