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Historically what has caused Thailand to loosen up on their Visa policies

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in 2010 it was a coup and loss of tourist that a year later caused the government to drop charge for a tourist visa

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4 hours ago, Tounge Thaied said:

There is a global tightening on freedom of movement on this planet. I have been watching Thailand's VISA process for the last five years tighten. I would ask Hal65 to provide some evidence for his/her assertion that Thailand has historically loosened up on their VISA policies.

I understand the TM30 was a rule enacted decades ago and is now being enforced again. That sounds that the TM30 was a tightening, then was loosened, and now being tightened again.

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17 minutes ago, Mac98 said:

I understand the TM30 was a rule enacted decades ago and is now being enforced again. That sounds that the TM30 was a tightening, then was loosened, and now being tightened again.

I really don't understand the TM30 fuss. My condo does it for me each time I get back from overseas. The receipt is stapled into my passport by them.

I suppose it has tightened. About 2 years ago, they wanted a TM30 when I went for my retirement extension. Five years previous to that, I had not done one. I assume the TM30 that was put in by the hotel I stayed in Bangkok was enough.

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8 minutes ago, canopy said:

The TM30 system was originally only for hotels and that sort of thing to do and not a worry in the world for people staying in Thailand. It then silently got broadened to include every house, condo, everything. Now enforcement and punishment is ramping up and people are getting a dose of how nasty this law is. Anytime you leave your residence for even one day BANG! You've got problems to sort out when you get back. No loosening occurred that I know of. Just tightening.

 

Really. I stay with my GF in her village from time to time. I've never seen a police officer there, let alone an IO. When I go back to my condo in Chiang Mai, I have yet to see an IO waiting for me. The only BANG I get is with my GF. Apologies if that is TMI.

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1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

Unless they create a new visa class for the Chinese alone, which would then p**s off the Americans. Stupid they are, but not that stupid.

and that's what they will do for Chinese and Indians as well, the "new rich high class tourists" they couldn't care less about Americans or other westerners reactions, they have the Chinese, until Prayut stays in power nothing else matters

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32 minutes ago, canopy said:

The TM30 system was originally only for hotels and that sort of thing to do and not a worry in the world for people staying in Thailand. It then silently got broadened to include every house, condo, everything. Now enforcement and punishment is ramping up and people are getting a dose of how nasty this law is. Anytime you leave your residence for even one day BANG! You've got problems to sort out when you get back. No loosening occurred that I know of. Just tightening.

 

You have examples of how it has happened to you or just assuming something?

 

I have never done a TM anything.  I and out and travel throughout the country many times never been asked a question about any of it....

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7 minutes ago, bkk6060 said:

You have examples of how it has happened to you or just assuming something?

 

I have never done a TM anything.  I and out and travel throughout the country many times never been asked a question about any of it....

You naughty law-breaker you. I just have my Thai GF use her ID card at any hotel. Is that how you do it?

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A progressive, 'westernized' government :There was only one in Thai history :The one run by businessman Premier Anand in the nineties :They immediately scrapped that inane tax revenue certificate required for leaving the country for anyone residing longer than 180 days in any given calendar year.

Another Anand, and TM 30 would be scrapped immediately. 

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2 hours ago, GalaxyMan said:

Can you provide a link about this? News to me. Thanks.

It’s in the tax code somewhere. No link as I read it and also my thai Factory owner friend keeps me up on things as he and all owners are doing some major shifts including offshore.  

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11 minutes ago, canopy said:

Are you kidding? This has been all over the news this year. Do some reading. In my province as an example people that have lived there peacefully and quietly forever are now receiving warnings, fines, and refusal of visa services from the immigration office simply because they returned to their homes not knowing they now need the house owner to file a tm30 within a 24-hours time limit. There are more and more Thai property owners that refuse to rent to foreigners because they don't want to have this hassle and don't want to be vulnerable to the potential fines involved. This is one of the most draconian laws ever. Every time you step away from your house you need to coordinate with the owner to fill out paperwork. Yes, this is really happening.

 

So many expats here are either in denial or LA LA land 555. Yes... The noose is getting tighter. Two weeks ago I got my first IO visit... I live alone.. Rented house.. 4 IO officers! No tm30 in file. Owner never registered me! 4 years in Thailand I've never felt so unwelcome... By locals... By IO.. just a generally feeling if.. Go away farang. Ouch. Ok.

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26 minutes ago, Bournville said:

So many expats here are either in denial or LA LA land 555. Yes... The noose is getting tighter. Two weeks ago I got my first IO visit... I live alone.. Rented house.. 4 IO officers! No tm30 in file. Owner never registered me! 4 years in Thailand I've never felt so unwelcome... By locals... By IO.. just a generally feeling if.. Go away farang. Ouch. Ok.

More and more I notice a shift in attitude toward expats...on two occassions was told that Thais are tired of expats not speaking fluent Thai...(not a visa requirement)...I could give details of encounters with Thais with an attitude recently...but the Thai apologists would blow a gasket and let me know right quick that I did not smile and speak politely in Thai...😂

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32 minutes ago, Bournville said:

So many expats here are either in denial or LA LA land 555. Yes... The noose is getting tighter. Two weeks ago I got my first IO visit... I live alone.. Rented house.. 4 IO officers! No tm30 in file. Owner never registered me! 4 years in Thailand I've never felt so unwelcome... By locals... By IO.. just a generally feeling if.. Go away farang. Ouch. Ok.

What province? 

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