meechai Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 (edited) 57 minutes ago, smutcakes said: Dont understand, please explain your point. In your previous post you said Quote You have threads and hundreds of posts about people complaining about immigration in their own countries, letting anyone in, diluting their nationality- That is a horse of a different color because in other countries they are allowing immigration of large numbers of displaced migrants. In Thailand they are not allowing immigrants hence they issue NON Immigrant visa's They are nothing more than temporary passes easily revoked at anytime. With rules that are easily changed at any time. Becoming a citizen in say the USA is as simple as having a temp residence visa (green card) for 2 years Then a perm resident for 1 year. Then apply & easily pass a citizenship test. You have then fully immigrated into the country. With all the rights of any other citizen A far cry from Non Immigrant Visa's extended in Thailand to foreigners & a far cry from the problem you compared it to in other countries Look up Immigrate .......... im·mi·grate /ˈiməˌɡrāt/ verb North American verb: immigrate; 3rd person present: immigrates; past tense: immigrated; past participle: immigrated; gerund or present participle: immigrating come to live permanently in a foreign country. Edited November 11, 2019 by meechai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smutcakes Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 32 minutes ago, meechai said: In your previous post you said That is a horse of a different color because in other countries they are allowing immigration of large numbers of displaced migrants. In Thailand they are not allowing immigrants hence they issue NON Immigrant visa's They are nothing more than temporary passes easily revoked at anytime. With rules that are easily changed at any time. Becoming a citizen in say the USA is as simple as having a temp residence visa (green card) for 2 years Then a perm resident for 1 year. Then apply & easily pass a citizenship test. You have then fully immigrated into the country. With all the rights of any other citizen A far cry from Non Immigrant Visa's extended in Thailand to foreigners & a far cry from the problem you compared it to in other countries Look up Immigrate .......... im·mi·grate /ˈiməˌɡrāt/ verb North American verb: immigrate; 3rd person present: immigrates; past tense: immigrated; past participle: immigrated; gerund or present participle: immigrating come to live permanently in a foreign country. I have never generally noticed people on here differentiating to that degree. It appears to be far more if they are non white, muslim, male, from Africa then they can get back to their own country, disregarding whether they are immigrant, non immigrant etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 4 hours ago, smutcakes said: This forum is such a strange place some times. You have threads and hundreds of posts about people complaining about immigration in their own countries, letting anyone in, diluting their nationality- on the other hand they are bemoaning Thailand trying to control immigration.... None of us are immigrating here. It says so in my passport. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meechai Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 46 minutes ago, smutcakes said: I have never generally noticed people on here differentiating to that degree. It is not about noticing a difference as you are comparing two completely different things. They cannot be compared Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smutcakes Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 1 minute ago, meechai said: It is not about noticing a difference as you are comparing two completely different things. They cannot be compared Of course they can be compared. Lots of people from outside Thailand come and stay here. They whinge because the Government make it harder for them to stay here. Those same people whinge that X person comes to their country and lives there, why the Government let them in, why this, why that. They don't differentiate between what visa each person carries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meechai Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, smutcakes said: Of course they can be compared. Lots of people from outside Thailand come and stay here. They whinge because the Government make it harder for them to stay here. Those same people whinge that X person comes to their country and lives there, why the Government let them in, why this, why that. They don't differentiate between what visa each person carries. Instead it seems your trying to say racial prejudice is alive & well in all countries to which none would be surprised If not prejudice some folks complain about immigration in their countries because the immigrants tax the support systems as they get usage of all of it. Welfare/food benefits/housing/jobs etc etc Does that compare with Thailand? But again you cannot compare the temporary pass to visit Thailand even if extended every year/90 days what ever with immigration in other countries. It is NON Immigration in Thailand period Cannot make it any clearer sorry Edited November 11, 2019 by meechai 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacrimas Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 I think that when Thailand will finally realize that they are losing lots of tourists spending good money and residents the trend will reverse and we will see more friendly immigration laws. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex2554 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 "two week millionaires" are welcome, government make it harder to stay here only for frugal longstay foreigners 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linno2 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 On 11/9/2019 at 2:22 PM, worgeordie said: My 84 year old cousin visits us every winter, stays for 3 months,in the past fill 1 form send it off to Thai Embassy in London along with payment to get Visa,easy Now this time has to fill in a 5 page application,online to get a E-Visa,what a carry on, picture too light,picture too dark, needs letter from me inviting her to stay at our house,has to provide a copy of bank statements,so things are definitely a lot more difficult now,for her at least. regards Worgeordie It is happening in many countries. More than a dozen previous visas for my wife to Australia (married and joint bank accounts and family all in OZ). Just helped her complete the 17 page application form with 11 uploaded attachments such as marriage certificate, tabian ban, business registration and web site, drivers license, ID card, old passport details, previous country visa details (5 UK, PNG, Bahrain etc) plus a 10 hour return trip for another round of finger prints and photo. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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