bristolboy Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Sujo said: I hope he runs. He has very good ideas and is not as far left as some current dems. He would get a lot of swing voters. Hardest part for him would be getting thebdem nomination. Yes a real billionaire with real ideas. One of which is unshackle wall street and the big banks. No thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RideJocky Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Jingthing said: I can't relate to that at all. A second term of 45 would be an unspeakable disaster. Only for the left, for the rest of us it would be much better than any dems running. I saw where Trumps approval ratings got a bump this week.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, RideJocky said: Only for the left, for the rest of us it would be much better than any dems running. I saw where Trumps approval ratings got a bump this week.... I don't think the opinions of hard core 45 fans (about 35 percent of voters) matter on this in the slightest. They will support 45 regardless of what horrors that he does or whoever the democrats put up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jingthing said: I can't relate to that at all. A second term of 45 would be an unspeakable disaster. I agree , I already have an exit plan should this occur, but I am not sure if there is a place to exit too that the long arm of trump can't reach. Anyway, I am throwing caution to the wind and supporting Warren, I have already contributed to her campaign and will do so again soon. But I would vote for anyone nominated, at this poiny I would even be delighted by a president Romney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Why Me Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Warren and Sanders need to be given a gold watch each and pointed to the exit. They can never win a general election. Biden will get confused and wander away at some point. Bloomberg's got business savvy and political savvy. If Dems can disabuse themselves of loony left fantasies and nominate him they'll have the WH in 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Just now, Why Me said: Warren and Sanders need to be given a gold watch each and pointed to the exit. They can never win a general election. Biden will get confused and wander away at some point. Bloomberg's got business savvy and political savvy. If Dems can disabuse themselves of loony left fantasies and nominate him they'll have the WH in 2020. If having the white house is the only concern then you would be right, but it is not. We have had this attitude for too long and look where it has gotten as . I think it is time to vote our conscience and let the chips fall where they may. We are destroying the country so that we might save it. Not a viable strategy IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emdog Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 I like idea of universal health care: covers everyone and if follow model of Canada, much cheaper overall. But US is not ready for that yet. Free tuition might sound good, but why should those who didn't go to college have to pay for those who do? I like Amy, but she is not the darling of the vocal minority that seems to be steering Demos off a cliff. Christopher Hitchens wrote a good essay years ago "I fought the law in Bloomberg's New York", funny, witty, spot on and had lovely term for MB: micromeglomaniac. https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2004/02/hitchens200402 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number 6 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Never Ok for Treasury or Commerce secy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RideJocky Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 1 hour ago, bristolboy said: One of which is unshackle wall street and the big banks. No thanks. Remember Biden’s line to a black audience? Republicans want to unChain Wall-street. The gonna put ‘chall BACK in chains. Too funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RideJocky Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Jingthing said: Adios. Sayonara. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 1 hour ago, RideJocky said: Now you know how we felt when it was HRC running as another four to eight years of the President Obama disaster. Please let it be Warren or better Bernie! Oh yea you are soooo right the Obama disaster lol I rember what he started with and what he ended his term with he and his TEAM rescued our country from an economic disaster we had respect and good will on the world stage we were evolving towards a more egalitarian society now we have division and hate under trump we have become a laughingstock and pariah on the world stage your Donald is the disaster mike Bloomberg will kick trumps rear end if given the chance just don’t know if he will be the nominee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RideJocky Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, Tug said: Oh yea you are soooo right the Obama disaster lol I rember what he started with and what he ended his term with he and his TEAM rescued our country from an economic disaster we had respect and good will on the world stage we were evolving towards a more egalitarian society now we have division and hate under trump we have become a laughingstock and pariah on the world stage your Donald is the disaster mike Bloomberg will kick trumps rear end if given the chance just don’t know if he will be the nominee I thought Trump was going to be impeached and incarcerated for all his crimes against humanity, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Alex Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Yes, Bloomberg faces big challenges as a candidate. The fact that he's a nanny state clown is among the biggest issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Bloomberg is at 77 years old is another candidate we would not have to pay a lot for after his retirement.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Crazy Alex Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 5 hours ago, Tug said: Oh yea you are soooo right the Obama disaster lol I rember what he started with and what he ended his term with he and his TEAM rescued our country from an economic disaster we had respect and good will on the world stage we were evolving towards a more egalitarian society now we have division and hate under trump we have become a laughingstock and pariah on the world stage your Donald is the disaster mike Bloomberg will kick trumps rear end if given the chance just don’t know if he will be the nominee Yes, because the rich and poor wealth gap's massive increase during the Obama reign of terror was actually a sign of a more egalitarian society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Alex Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 7 hours ago, bristolboy said: One of which is unshackle wall street and the big banks. No thanks. So you prefer certain industries be in shackles. Wow, that's quite revealing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 3 hours ago, sirineou said: Bloomberg is at 77 years old is another candidate we would not have to pay a lot for after his retirement.. Well that's kind of a trivial concern but his intention might be to be one term president. Sort of a transition out of the madness into more normality and unity, and then pass the baton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Alex Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 7 hours ago, Why Me said: Warren and Sanders need to be given a gold watch each and pointed to the exit. They can never win a general election. Biden will get confused and wander away at some point. Bloomberg's got business savvy and political savvy. If Dems can disabuse themselves of loony left fantasies and nominate him they'll have the WH in 2020. The problem for the Democrat party is in your last sentence. They have embraced the kook left fringe. They are the party of the Green New Deal, Jew hatred (the Squad) and other insanity that will be a problem for them in 2020. But not to worry: some of the left's best and brightest tell me Trump will be impeached and thrown out of office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Alex Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Jingthing said: Well that's kind of a trivial concern but his intention might be to be one term president. Sort of a transition out of the madness into more normality and unity, and then pass the baton. Has there ever been a president who only wanted one term? Not to my knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 56 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Well that's kind of a trivial concern but his intention might be to be one term president. Sort of a transition out of the madness into more normality and unity, and then pass the baton. Not Trivial IMO, I am 62, in great shape for my age, and I can feel it, I can imagine what will be like at 72 never mind 79. I guess both Him Sanders and Biden could say the same thing but it is very difficult to govern starting lame duck. Any of them would need a sure fire winner VP really involved and ready to jump in at a moments notice. Having said that any of them would have my vote should they be the nominee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendejo Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 As I've said from the beginning, the 2019 part of the primary is strictly entertainment value. Next November it could come down to Romney vs Holder. DT, even if not removed by the Dems' impeachment effort, could quite easily be locked away and kept on thorazine by his own party. Could there be a silent effort to support this impeachment by the upper strata of the GOP, so that they can clean their house and make the Dems the bad guys? If DT is removed could Bloomberg run as a Republican? From what I can see of any of the contenders, from either party, Bloomberg and Holder (both New Yorkers) are the only ones who can go blow-for-blow in the bs battles DT thrives on. Eric is gonna have to dial up his "bad self" persona. For certain reasons, which I will not express here, I don't see Bloomberg carrying a nationwide election. I didn't see anyone in the last Dem debate who could either. Hold on to Holder 2020! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm91 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Crazy Alex said: So you prefer certain industries be in shackles. Wow, that's quite revealing. Wow..so you prefer that certain industries have no controls so they can pollute fore example and use their economic power to the benefit of their shareholder and the detriment of society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm91 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 19 hours ago, Crazy Alex said: The problem for the Democrat party is in your last sentence. They have embraced the kook left fringe. They are the party of the Green New Deal, Jew hatred (the Squad) and other insanity that will be a problem for them in 2020. But not to worry: some of the left's best and brightest tell me Trump will be impeached and thrown out of office. You have it wrong. The republican party is the party tacitly supporting racist hate groups. The President himself is a noted racist and tacit supporter of conservative hate groups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RideJocky Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 1 hour ago, jm91 said: You have it wrong. The republican party is the party tacitly supporting racist hate groups. The head pussy grabber himself is a noted racist and tacit supporter of conservative hate groups. Only people on the left believe that, much the same way that they think science is on there side or that they’re really smart because they got a degree. As far as “The head pussy grabber...”, do you have you any real evidence that Trump goes around grabbing pussies uninvited? Or were you talking about Bill Clinton? Remember him? The guy ABC killed the Epstein story to protect? The left call Trump a mother f’er and his daughter a feckless c-unt then turn around and accuse him of not sounding stately enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm91 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 58 minutes ago, RideJocky said: Only people on the left believe that, much the same way that they think science is on there side or that they’re really smart because they got a degree. As far as “The head pussy grabber...”, do you have you any real evidence that Trump goes around grabbing pussies uninvited? Or were you talking about Bill Clinton? Remember him? The guy ABC killed the Epstein story to protect? The left call Trump a mother f’er and his daughter a feckless c-unt then turn around and accuse him of not sounding stately enough. Donny is on tape telling us about his pussy grabbing exploits Science is on no side. It offers evidence. Many conservatives don't like the idea of fact based thinking so they are hostile to science. Sadly the cult leader trump verbally assaults people but was silent aboutright-wing violence at the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville. The conservatives take their cue from the head racist. Hmm..I guess you have not heard about his racist past? Stop watching fox news..he mocks and belittles based on racial stereotypes. Oh and one of the first public mentions of the head pussy grabber was when he was sued for racial discrimination. Yep..head racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm91 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 59 minutes ago, RideJocky said: The left call Trump a mother f’er and his daughter a feckless c-unt then turn around and accuse him of not sounding stately enough. So the head pussy grabber does not sound stately to you but that is OK because someone insulted him? He is supposed to be the president of the US and be presidential. I would be ashamed if my child acted like the current president of the USA. His personal behavior is a disgrace. If you would condone that kind of behavior from your own child I would question your parenting skills and judgment..but of course you would not allow that from your own child..Would you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RideJocky Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 38 minutes ago, jm91 said: Donny is on tape telling us about his pussy grabbing exploits This is a lie. He did not comment on what he had done, but rather what he could do. In any event, I don’t doubt he’s grabbed his share of pussies, but uninvited? 38 minutes ago, jm91 said: Science is on no side. It offers evidence. Many conservatives don't like the idea of fact based thinking so they are hostile to science. Sadly the cult leader trump verbally assaults people but was silent aboutright-wing violence at the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville. The conservatives take their cue from the head racist. Hmm..I guess you have not heard about his racist past? Stop watching fox news..he mocks and belittles based on racial stereotypes. Oh and one of the first public mentions of the head pussy grabber was when he was sued for racial discrimination. Yep..head racist. More Koolaid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RideJocky Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 40 minutes ago, jm91 said: So the head pussy grabber does not sound stately to you but that is OK because someone insulted him? He is supposed to be the president of the US and be presidential. I would be ashamed if my child acted like the current president of the USA. His personal behavior is a disgrace. If you would condone that kind of behavior from your own child I would question your parenting skills and judgment..but of course you would not allow that from your own child..Would you? So rather than attacking the left that is attempting to destroy his life and undermine his authority he should be banging interns and or ruining my medical insurance? No thanks. I wish he spoke more eloquently but I am more concerned about the leftward slide of the county. Why is there never a call for the left to tone down the rhetoric? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm91 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, RideJocky said: This is a lie. He did not comment on what he had done, but rather what he could do. In any event, I don’t doubt he’s grabbed his share of pussies, but uninvited? More Koolaid? More koolaid? Maybe your reference is to the Jim Jones cult - The cult of trump is more likely to drink the koolaid. But exactly does that mean? If you are going to respond at least try and be clear about your meaning. Please explain. Trump on the recording says he - can do anything to women - just start kissing them ... I don't even wait and grab 'em by the pussy. He is an admitted sexual predator. He has multiple sexual misconduct allegations which he has paid off to silence. He paid off a porn star..he is a disgrace to the office of the president. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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