rooster59 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Pattaya: American "brain dead", wife gives conflicting story about pregnancy/shooting Caption: Relatives called in - Bart is brain dead, no recognition Sanook reported that the US citizen who escaped from a Pattaya court on Monday but who was captured later in the week is "brain dead" in a coma in a Sa Kaeo hospital. Bart Allen Helmus, 39, is unresponsive on a respirator after shooting himself during his capture by Thai police. Relatives have been called. His wife Sirinapha Wisetrit, 30, was operated on and is also on a respirator but is expected to be removed from that. Sanook reported that she is out of danger. She reportedly told medics that she is not three months pregnant but had missed her period for several months due to the stress of her incarceration. She claimed that she was hit by the bullet that her husband aimed at himself in an effort to end his own life. Earlier reports suggested he had shot her then turned the gun on himself. Thaivisa notes that the case has been beset with inaccurate reports. Earlier in the week the American was reported as being dead. Police are mounting a round the clock watch on the couple with shifts changing every few hours. Source: Sanook -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2019-11-09 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercman24 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 yep he is going to escape , being brain dead,, on a respirator., racking up the hospital tab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksidedog Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 18 minutes ago, rooster59 said: Police are mounting a round the clock watch on the couple with shifts changing every few hours. I think they have been watching too many zombie movies. If the guy is brain dead, he is not going to be getting up and making further escape attempts is he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinneil Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Brain dead cops guarding a brain dead Yank.???? Wonder if they got him handcuffed to the bed, so he doesnt do another runner.???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 13 minutes ago, mercman24 said: yep he is going to escape , being brain dead,, on a respirator., racking up the hospital tab. Justification to raise insurance costs even further for OA farangs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpmacs Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 14 minutes ago, PatOngo said: Justification to raise insurance costs even further for OA farangs. 19 minutes ago, darksidedog said: I think they have been watching too many zombie movies. If the guy is brain dead, he is not going to be getting up and making further escape attempts is he? Or maybe they are taking extra precautions incase there is an attempt to break him free again? Seems pretty reasonable to me that security would be beefed up, especially considering what happened previously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 37 minutes ago, mercman24 said: yep he is going to escape , being brain dead,, on a respirator., racking up the hospital tab. whos going to pay for his hospital bill ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezzra Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 He was already brain dead when he tried to do this stupid runner to begin with, but now it's official... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesofa Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 35 minutes ago, colinneil said: Brain dead cops guarding a brain dead Yank.???? Wonder if they got him handcuffed to the bed, so he doesnt do another runner.???? That won't do any good, it's probably on wheels. He'll get clean away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpmacs Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Maybe he's not actually 'brain dead'. Maybe he's being guarded closely because he's clearly up for a runner, and even if he is 'brain dead', he would still need guarding incase there was an attempt to break him out by a third party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdenner Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 I'm thinking the only 'Brain Dead' in this whole saga are the news reporters and so called experts trying to make a name for em selves! Or is it just poor translations we 'Thai illiterate' Farang are being subject too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayluttman Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 1 hour ago, darksidedog said: I think they have been watching too many zombie movies. If the guy is brain dead, he is not going to be getting up and making further escape attempts is he? True but if he has any money the hospital will keep him going for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesofa Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 15 minutes ago, rayluttman said: True but if he has any money the hospital will keep him going for now. How very true. I had a staff member suffer the same fate in Pattaya years ago. The hospital kept her on life support for a few days waiting for her parents to arrive from up-country. The hospital charged the parents for the extra days naturally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beggar Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 2 hours ago, darksidedog said: I think they have been watching too many zombie movies. If the guy is brain dead, he is not going to be getting up and making further escape attempts is he? "The Walking Dead". The story the Thai news tell us is full of surprises. There are so many twists in the meantime that everything seems to be still possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffggi Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 2 hours ago, rooster59 said: Pattaya: American "brain dead", wife gives conflicting story about pregnancy/shooting This whole charade is an insult to peoples intelligence, the editors of the news outlets should be fired, after so many false reports one would think they should check thoroughly all the reports and where there is confliction at least be a little hesitant in making false headlines. It will probably turn out the police shot both of them if the truth ever came out...!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beggar Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 8 minutes ago, Geoffggi said: This whole charade is an insult to peoples intelligence, the editors of the news outlets should be fired, after so many false reports one would think they should check thoroughly all the reports and where there is confliction at least be a little hesitant in making false headlines. It will probably turn out the police shot both of them if the truth ever came out...!!! Perhaps he gets paid for clicks and not for honesty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofthemountain Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 2 hours ago, steven100 said: whos going to pay for his hospital bill ? They can still sale his organs bet they keep him alive just for a piece by piece sale they are just waiting for more buyers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justgrazing Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 2 hours ago, rooster59 said: Police are mounting a round the clock watch on the couple with quality timepieces lent by toad in the hole .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBrainer Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 1 hour ago, ezzra said: He was already brain dead when he tried to do this stupid runner to begin with, but now it's official... He was already brain dead when he decided that selling drugs in Thailand was a good career move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthhurts Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Pffft..who needs accurate reports when there is blame to apportioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailand49 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 So nothing has changed! He was brain dead before he got arrested!???? He must have immigration insurance as required for them to keep him alive? I guess when it runs out they will pull the plug even at a government hospital since they are allow to charge Farang prices now.???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matzzon Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 3 hours ago, rooster59 said: "brain dead" Same as before then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombat Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 3 hours ago, mercman24 said: yep he is going to escape , being brain dead,, on a respirator., racking up the hospital tab. nah...suicide comes next Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsider Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 3 hours ago, colinneil said: Brain dead cops guarding a brain dead Yank.???? Wonder if they got him handcuffed to the bed, so he doesnt do another runner.???? Ya know, it's not entirely impossible that the brain-dead Yank can still outsmart them rozzers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krataiboy Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 3 hours ago, mercman24 said: yep he is going to escape , being brain dead,, on a respirator., racking up the hospital tab. Clearly fake news. Can hardly wait for the official version from the Ministry of Truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsider Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 3 hours ago, rooster59 said: Thaivisa notes that the case has been beset with inaccurate reports... Par for the course with most cases, if not all. 3 hours ago, rooster59 said: Police are mounting a round the clock watch on the couple with shifts changing every few hours. Just make sure there is Wi-Fi for the brain-dead rozzers to check their FB, chat on Line and play some games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCC1701A Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 This bloody yank person was brain dead when he decided to tattoo Satan's minions harvesting souls on his chest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timendres Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Jpmacs said: Is the suspect brain dead? nothing solid to confirm the suspect is 'braindead', Maybe the OP itself is where this idea comes from? 3 hours ago, rooster59 said: Sanook reported that the US citizen who escaped from a Pattaya court on Monday but who was captured later in the week is "brain dead" in a coma in a Sa Kaeo hospital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCC1701A Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 "Welcome to Thailand scary USA Vin Diesel looking man. Are you here tourist or business?" "I am a brain dead drug dealer and psychopath." "OK. Look into camera." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnx101 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 3 hours ago, colinneil said: Brain dead cops guarding a brain dead Yank.???? Wonder if they got him handcuffed to the bed, so he doesnt do another runner.???? Bet they have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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