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I am on an extension based upon retirement and will be going back in UK tomorrow. There I will try to get 6 month Multi entry tourist visa before I return to Thailand. If I was returning on the retirement extension I would need to get TM.30 completed - But do I need to do this if I return on a tourist visa?

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TM30 has nothing to do with your visa. Many posters here say as long as you have no interaction with Immigration you not need to fill in a TM30.

 

But if you stay in a Hotel, then it's not your problem anyway, because the hotel should fill the TM30!

TM30 is "only" a problem for people who not stay in hotels. This the reason most tourists don't care and don't need to know about it!

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 Thanks for the response - I live in a 6 month term rented apartment on a contract. 

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5 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

It depends upon the office you would be doing something at.

If you do not apply for 30 day extensions you will not need to worry about it being done.

Thanks UbonJoe - I live in Bangkok and hence CW would be he immigration office.

 

The bottom line is that because all foreigners need a TM.30 wherever they stay they always need the TM.30 to be completed. Normally this would be completed in the hotel for a tourist, but in my case the  owner of the apartments should complete my TM.30. If the owner does this then I would not need to visit CW and If they do not do this then (theoretically) I should visit CW to complete a TM.30 - either way a TM.30 needs competing on any return back into Thailand with 24 hrs. But what you are really saying is that if there is no TM.30 done at all and since there is no 90 day reports with a tourist visa and no visits to CW and no inspection of passport they will not see there is no TM.30 missing in passport or missing entries from hotels / long term apartment not completing TM.30's. However If at the end of the 6/8 months Tourist Visa and if I did want to extend for an extra 30 days then at this point they would see no TM.30 and hence then this is where the problem is identified. Therefore if I wanted to get the extension at the end of 6/8 months I should do the TM.30 at immigration after every 24 hrs of entry back into Thailand - Have I got this right?

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3 hours ago, spambot said:

Therefore if I wanted to get the extension at the end of 6/8 months I should do the TM.30 at immigration after every 24 hrs of entry back into Thailand - Have I got this right?

Not “every”. Just make sure a report is made by someone for the last entry before you apply for the extension.

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2 minutes ago, elviajero said:

Not “every”. Just make sure a report is made by someone for the last entry before you apply for the extension.

Ahh - OK. - But doesn't that mean that there will be a gap in the TM.30's on the previous trips in / out when they look at my passport on the extension?

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4 hours ago, spambot said:

Thanks UbonJoe - I live in Bangkok and hence CW would be he immigration office.

 

The bottom line is that because all foreigners need a TM.30 wherever they stay they always need the TM.30 to be completed. Normally this would be completed in the hotel for a tourist, but in my case the  owner of the apartments should complete my TM.30. If the owner does this then I would not need to visit CW and If they do not do this then (theoretically) I should visit CW to complete a TM.30 - either way a TM.30 needs competing on any return back into Thailand with 24 hrs. But what you are really saying is that if there is no TM.30 done at all and since there is no 90 day reports with a tourist visa and no visits to CW and no inspection of passport they will not see there is no TM.30 missing in passport or missing entries from hotels / long term apartment not completing TM.30's. However If at the end of the 6/8 months Tourist Visa and if I did want to extend for an extra 30 days then at this point they would see no TM.30 and hence then this is where the problem is identified. Therefore if I wanted to get the extension at the end of 6/8 months I should do the TM.30 at immigration after every 24 hrs of entry back into Thailand - Have I got this right?

TM30 doesn't appear or get put in your passport. You might be thinking of the TM 28.

 

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38 minutes ago, spambot said:

Ahh - OK. - But doesn't that mean that there will be a gap in the TM.30's on the previous trips in / out when they look at my passport on the extension?

Yes, but any gaps are irrelevant. A stay ends when you leave the country as do any address reporting laws. A new stay starts on entry when the laws kick in as if it was your first ever entry.

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3 hours ago, spambot said:

Ahh - OK. - But doesn't that mean that there will be a gap in the TM.30's on the previous trips in / out when they look at my passport on the extension?

I did my last extension based on retirement Oct 8, CW.  Had never done a tm30 in 7 yrs here. I fly in out every couple of weeks. Did ONE tm30 after my last reentry to Los just prior to visit CW.

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1 hour ago, DrJack54 said:

I did my last extension based on retirement Oct 8, CW.  Had never done a tm30 in 7 yrs here. I fly in out every couple of weeks. Did ONE tm30 after my last reentry to Los just prior to visit CW.

Thanks for that - Can assume there was no problem with the gaps prior to this?

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8 hours ago, spambot said:

 Thanks for the response - I live in a 6 month term rented apartment on a contract. 

Tourists don't live in Thailand; they merely come to visit.

 

If you mention to the Immigration Officer that you are living in Thailand, they may deny you entry with a Tourist Visa.

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On 11/10/2019 at 10:45 AM, spambot said:

 Thanks for the response - I live in a 6 month term rented apartment on a contract. 

Why don't you return using a re-entry permit? Why give up an extension based on retirement? The TM30 is a piece of cake. 

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21 hours ago, overherebc said:

TM30 doesn't appear or get put in your passport. You might be thinking of the TM 28.

 

Last year I returned on Reentry Permit (Retirement Extension) and went to my local Immigration with my wife (householder/owner) to file a TM30. WAs told that, if returning to same address a TM30 was not required.

 

This October I entered on a Visa Exempt got 30 day stay. Went to local Immigration and filed a TM30 (due to the resurgence by Immigration to apply the rule).

 

The IO asked where the landlord was. Gave her copy of wife's ID and Tabien Bahn and told her my wife was ill in bed (truth). Application accepted and receipt stapled into my PP.

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20 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

I did my last extension based on retirement Oct 8, CW.  Had never done a tm30 in 7 yrs here. I fly in out every couple of weeks. Did ONE tm30 after my last reentry to Los just prior to visit CW.

Would that also be the case if you travelled in country and used hotels and then did a tm30(for my condo) @ CW only after last hotel?

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