webfact Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Phuket food-delivery boom raises concerns of disposable waste explosion By The Phuket News Assoc Prof Pun Thongchumnum PhD, Vice President of the Prince of Songkla University Phuket Campus, called for an immediate policy shift to curtail the use of non-environmentally friendly food packaging used by food-delivery companies in Phuket. Photo: PSU Phuket Campus PHUKET: The fast-rising popularity of food-delivery services in Phuket has raised serious concerns over the volume of plastics and other non-environmentally friendly packaging used by the companies delivering food across the island by motorbike. A survey by the Prince of Songkla University Phuket Campus found that there are currently three food-delivery service providers in Phuket, employing more than 2,850 drivers with over 1,000 participating restaurants using the platforms. According to the survey, conducted on Oct 19-22, 48.15% of the food-packaging boxes used by food delivery services in Phuket were foam, 25.68% were plastic and only 26.17% were paper. Read more at https://www.thephuketnews.com/phuket-food-delivery-boom-raises-concerns-of-disposable-waste-explosion-73569.php#hcVfpGClhQ2Uf7vB.99 -- © Copyright Phuket News 2019-11-08 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mok199 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Finally ...someone has recognized the real plastics problem....street vendor and restaurant 'take away food', now the hard part ,changing a Nations habits... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelepulse Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Not sure you can blame food delivery services. As mentioned above, blame the society of toss it in the bushes( gutter, road, beach, river etc.) and it goes away mentality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deli Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 IF this is the only ploplem Phuket has... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netease Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Just TAX the containers, Problem solved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjuk Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 8 minutes ago, Netease said: Just TAX the containers, Problem solved How on earth is this going to solve the problem ? All it would do is put the price up. A total ban on polystyrenes would be a good starting place including packing in electrical goods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaiyen Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Thais are always moaning about the high price of food but they pay for expensive take aways and delivered food Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inThailand Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 18 minutes ago, jaiyen said: Thais are always moaning about the high price of food but they pay for expensive take aways and delivered food and then only eat 50 percent to save face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bananafish Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 47 minutes ago, pjuk said: How on earth is this going to solve the problem ? All it would do is put the price up. A total ban on polystyrenes would be a good starting place including packing in electrical goods. Because if environmentally friendly packaging is the cheapest because of taxes, environmentally friendly packaging will be used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 A post using profane language in ALL CAPS has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimbuman Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 2 hours ago, mok199 said: Finally ...someone has recognized the real plastics problem....street vendor and restaurant 'take away food', now the hard part ,changing a Nations habits... Changing this Nations habits can be done. Televising educational info about how bad it looks to leave their garbage at just almost any place that's convenient for them. Enforced littering laws with fines that make sense. Place garbage bins where needed. Collect and recycle/incinerate the garbage efficiently and there are likely some other good ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xonax Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 28 minutes ago, Rimbuman said: Changing this Nations habits can be done. Televising educational info about how bad it looks to leave their garbage at just almost any place that's convenient for them. Enforced littering laws with fines that make sense. Place garbage bins where needed. Collect and recycle/incinerate the garbage efficiently and there are likely some other good ideas. No country should buy new high speed trains and submarines, before they have a proper recycling/incineration system in place! Even solving environment issues can generate huge kick backs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Should start with street food takeaways. But that will never happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 4 hours ago, webfact said: According to the survey, conducted on Oct 19-22, 48.15% of the food-packaging boxes used by food delivery services in Phuket were foam, 25.68% were plastic and only 26.17% were paper. Maybe the food delivery providers should stipulate that to sign-up to the service food establishments must use 100% bio-degradable packaging, and use that as a marketing strategy. But then we all know it's nigh on impossible to get the mind-sets to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Some troll posts and the subsequent replies have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hioctane Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 2 hours ago, jaiyen said: Thais are always moaning about the high price of food but they pay for expensive take aways and delivered food How do you know it is the Thais doing all the ordering and not the farangs? Delivered food is the same price as in the restaurant and the delivery is free or minimal. This is not the West where delivery services charges crazy delivery fees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xylophone Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, hioctane said: How do you know it is the Thais doing all the ordering and not the farangs? Delivered food is the same price as in the restaurant and the delivery is free or minimal. This is not the West where delivery services charges crazy delivery fees. I would say that the greater percentage of the food deliveries are ordered by Thais, and indeed I have seen this on more occasions than I can care to count – – – streams of Panda delivery folk heading out of Jungceylon with plastic bags of iced drinks of one description or another, and even a few arriving there with the delivery for a Thai worker in the place (which I find amazing......perhaps Jungceylon food is too expensive for the average Thai?). My Thai daughter who lives in Phuket town, occasionally uses Panda to get an evening meal delivered and when I have asked as to the type of food she is ordering and the cost, it would probably surprise most people to know that she orders between 50 and 80 baht of food (some sort of rice or noodle dish) at a time, and when you consider that Panda take up to 20% of the cost of the food as a delivery charge, then there is not a lot left for the establishment by way of profit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ54 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 I had take away ribs from one of the large pizza companies. It was in what looked like plastic. Looked on the back biodegradable.... Good on them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USMC RETIRED 2015 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 So I have read 2 pages of folks complaining about the Thais using plastic and foam but yet I have not read one solution to the problem....anyone have a solution? I read bio-degradable packaging but what is that? where is it? is it available in Thailand? so if there is no solution for the thai besides a hard container, what are they to do?? you can't use paper for liquid so what is the solution....it's pointless to ridicule the thais...how about coming up with viable solutions....if bio degradable bags were a solution, then wouldn't that be everywhere in the world by now...? Many of the states in the US just eliminated plastic bags altogether....but that was a viable solution there...I don't think you can do that here for street vendors... Wouldn't it make more sense to educate the thais on where to throw their plastic? Anyone ever live in Japan? if you have you would know how strict Japan is for recycling and discarding plastic....they learn this while growing up from parents and school. Plastic is not the problem...people are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mok199 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Rimbuman said: Changing this Nations habits can be done. Take some time and go to any school ( with the students who are supposed to be educated in this enviormental crusade) and watch in disgust as all the students who claim they care are some of the worst.....Thailand sadly will never change ...road carnage ,dirty air and plastics are its future... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbob Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 I have been using Grab and Food Panda these past couple of weeks, here in Phuket. I have been very impressed as almost all my food has come in cardboard containers. Only one came in plastic. I very much doubt this would have been the case even a few months ago, so I think habits are changing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natway09 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 I am not very concerned about the use of plastics, but I am concerned that we are a nation that does not & will not take a little time to dispose of it properly nor will the authorities provide proper vehicles for same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metempsychotic Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 My particular favourite is receiving plastic cutlery for 6 when ordering to a residential address despite putting no plastic forks spoons in notes. Both here and in philipines I stopped ordering delivery because it was such an environmental disaster, and food served in sealed plastic containers usually goes limp and soggy and tastes like <deleted>. Few foods actually travel well. It is so much more satisfying to cook and actually have a clue what you are eating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Christmas13 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 1 hour ago, hioctane said: How do you know it is the Thais doing all the ordering and not the farangs? Delivered food is the same price as in the restaurant and the delivery is free or minimal. This is not the West where delivery services charges crazy delivery fees. So you call free delivery crazy? I can have a pizza delivered from domino's and pay nothing for delivery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unamazedloso Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 im about to get a bag of coke!???????? 90% of thais buy all there food as takeout from markets and resterants... with a lack of tourism i dont see any reason for any concern.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujayujay Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 ......and they never learn! This is a well known problem and theres no requirements for this food deliverers to use environmentally friendly packaging! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neeray Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Motorcycle taxis will be double happy. They get taxi revenue and free food too. (I read recently that it is very common for delivery people to help themselves to some of customer’s food along the way). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_lob Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 they could export all of the waste to Samui - i heard they have a very efficient incinerator there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck J Butters Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 3 hours ago, hioctane said: How do you know it is the Thais doing all the ordering and not the farangs? Delivered food is the same price as in the restaurant and the delivery is free or minimal. This is not the West where delivery services charges crazy delivery fees. The street vendors in northern Phuket rake in about 1 million baht / month in profit. 99.9% of their customers are farangs that have realized that vendor food is far cheaper and higher quality than the adjacent restaurants serving left over slop that the street vendors can't sell. At the local street vendor across the street from me, you'll see farangs lining up to get fresh shrimp fried rice for 50-70 baht ( 10 - 12 giant shrimp, all fresh and bbq right there in front of you ) and carrying 10-20 giant styrofoam boxes back to their hotels. I kid you not, it's almost comical how much product the farangs load up on ( especially the Russians and Americans ). This goes on year round. I always hear about this tourist shortage but we definitely have not experienced that in Northern Phuket. Right now, on a Monday, there is a 30 minute line / wait out by the beach, all farangs piling up to buy fresh street food. This particular street vendor is fantastic, fresh ocean catch, frankly it's the most delicious food in Phuket and only 50-70 baht / dish. Vs you go across the street to where the restaurants are and it's 250 baht for the exact same thing that is old and loaded with oil/grease to cover up the fact that the food is old, bordering on rancid. No clue how these street vendors are allowed to operate right in front of the restaurants and completely wipe out their competition but they are. Mostly likely, they have mafia connects. Regardless..boy oh boy is the food tasty and fresh!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Umm have never heard of Bamboo??? Food containers are already manufactured from Bamboo along with cutlery drink straws, carry bags, someone should introduce them to the wonderful, renewable biodegradable resource, they could even use it in buildings and floor coverings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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