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2 hours ago, jaiyen said:

Thais are always moaning about the high price of food but they pay for expensive take aways and delivered food

How do you know it is the Thais doing all the ordering and not the farangs? Delivered food is the same price as in the restaurant and the delivery is free or minimal. This is not the West where delivery services charges crazy delivery fees.

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3 minutes ago, hioctane said:

How do you know it is the Thais doing all the ordering and not the farangs? Delivered food is the same price as in the restaurant and the delivery is free or minimal. This is not the West where delivery services charges crazy delivery fees.

I would say that the greater percentage of the food deliveries are ordered by Thais, and indeed I have seen this on more occasions than I can care to count – – – streams of Panda delivery folk heading out of Jungceylon with plastic bags of iced drinks of one description or another, and even a few arriving there with the delivery for a Thai worker in the place (which I find amazing......perhaps Jungceylon food is too expensive for the average Thai?).

 

My Thai daughter who lives in Phuket town, occasionally uses Panda to get an evening meal delivered and when I have asked as to the type of food she is ordering and the cost, it would probably surprise most people to know that she orders between 50 and 80 baht of food (some sort of rice or noodle dish) at a time, and when you consider that Panda take up to 20% of the cost of the food as a delivery charge, then there is not a lot left for the establishment by way of profit!
 

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I had take away ribs from one of the large pizza companies. It was in what looked like plastic. Looked on the back biodegradable.... Good on them...

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So I have read 2 pages of folks complaining about the Thais using plastic and foam but yet I have not read one solution to the problem....anyone have a solution?  I read bio-degradable packaging but what is that?  where is it?  is it available in Thailand?  so if there is no solution for the thai besides a hard container, what are they to do??  you can't use paper for liquid so what is the solution....it's pointless to ridicule the thais...how about coming up with viable solutions....if bio degradable bags were a solution, then wouldn't that be everywhere in the world by now...?  Many of the states in the US just eliminated plastic bags altogether....but that was a viable solution there...I don't think you can do that here for street vendors...
Wouldn't it make more sense to educate the thais on where to throw their plastic?  Anyone ever live in Japan?  if you have you would know how strict Japan is for recycling and discarding plastic....they learn this while growing up from parents and school.  Plastic is not the problem...people are.

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2 hours ago, Rimbuman said:

Changing this Nations habits can be done.

Take some time and go to any school ( with the students who are supposed to be educated in this enviormental crusade) and watch in disgust as all the students who claim they care are some of the worst.....Thailand sadly will never change ...road carnage ,dirty air and plastics are its future...

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I have been using Grab and Food Panda these past couple of weeks, here in Phuket. I have been very impressed as almost all my food has come in cardboard containers. Only one came in plastic. I very much doubt this would have been the case even a few months ago, so I think habits are changing.  

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I am not very concerned about the use of plastics, but I am concerned that 

we are a nation that does not & will not take a little time to dispose of it properly nor

will the authorities provide proper vehicles for same

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My particular favourite is receiving plastic cutlery for 6 when ordering to a  residential address despite putting no plastic forks spoons in notes. 

 

Both here and in philipines I stopped ordering delivery because it was such an environmental disaster, and food served in sealed plastic containers usually goes limp and soggy and tastes like <deleted>. Few foods actually travel well. 

 

It is so much more satisfying to cook and actually have a clue what you are eating 

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1 hour ago, hioctane said:

How do you know it is the Thais doing all the ordering and not the farangs? Delivered food is the same price as in the restaurant and the delivery is free or minimal. This is not the West where delivery services charges crazy delivery fees.

So you call free delivery crazy? I can have a pizza delivered from domino's and pay nothing

for delivery

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im about to get a bag of coke!🤣😂

 

90% of thais buy all there food as takeout from markets and resterants... with a lack of tourism i dont see any reason for any concern..

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Plastic its not a citizen fault, its giant oil multinationals and their global puppet governments fault!

Street vendor with limited education and worst much more less income, try to make a living, the price of a foam bowl vs paper bowl is 70 times cheaper, for them the 70/ 100 bath day of packaging cost in a month make a difference in earning.

 

Really want to solve the plastic and foam pollution issue ?
Very simple, tax them heavily and use plastic tax to support and give incentive to who produce, trade and use paper or vegetable substitutes, in less then 6 months will be very difficult to find any vendor use foam or plastic packaging.

 

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......and they never learn! This is a well known problem and theres no requirements for this food deliverers to use environmentally friendly packaging!

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Motorcycle taxis will be double happy. 

They get taxi revenue and free food too. 

(I read recently that it is very common for delivery people to help themselves to some of customer’s food along the way). 

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they could export all of the waste to Samui - i heard they have a very efficient incinerator there

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3 hours ago, hioctane said:

How do you know it is the Thais doing all the ordering and not the farangs? Delivered food is the same price as in the restaurant and the delivery is free or minimal. This is not the West where delivery services charges crazy delivery fees.

The street vendors in northern Phuket rake in about 1 million baht / month in profit. 99.9% of their customers are farangs that have realized that vendor food is far cheaper and higher quality than the adjacent restaurants serving left over slop that the street vendors can't sell. At the local street vendor across the street from me, you'll see farangs lining up to get fresh shrimp fried rice for 50-70 baht ( 10 - 12 giant shrimp, all fresh and bbq right there in front of you ) and carrying 10-20 giant styrofoam boxes back to their hotels. I kid you not, it's almost comical how much product the farangs load up on ( especially the Russians and Americans ). This goes on year round. I always hear about this tourist shortage but we definitely have not experienced that in Northern Phuket. Right now, on a Monday, there is a 30 minute line / wait out by the beach, all farangs piling up to buy fresh street food. This particular street vendor is fantastic, fresh ocean catch, frankly it's the most delicious food in Phuket and only 50-70 baht / dish. Vs you go across the street to where the restaurants are and it's 250 baht for the exact same thing that is old and loaded with oil/grease to cover up the fact that the food is old, bordering on rancid. No clue how these street vendors are allowed to operate right in front of the restaurants and completely wipe out their competition but they are. Mostly likely, they have mafia connects. Regardless..boy oh boy is the food tasty and fresh!!! 

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