outsider Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 5 hours ago, webfact said: ... getting worse despite campaigns to address the issue... Those weren't campaigns 'to address the issue'. Those were just hot air spewed by idiots who felt they needed some airtime and media coverage from time to time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manta Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 well thats what you get when you can buy a licence with 2kg of oranges.. when I went for my licence a few years ago, people where knocking down the posts and still given a pass... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surasak Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 5 hours ago, overherebc said: Well, there is an orgination that could/should be able to do a lot to make a big difference. Why would they jeopardise their tea money income, just to save a few lives? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 6 hours ago, Thaiwrath said: Maybe it is time to devise a more comprehensive campaign, that would address the issue, and, hopefully, save people's lives. Bring in advisers from more advanced countries, where driving is a lot safer, or would asking other people for advice be seen as 'losing face' ? Thai driving is different, you can't ask others who don't understand this small point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simtemple Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 6 hours ago, Thaiwrath said: Maybe it is time to devise a more comprehensive campaign, that would address the issue, and, hopefully, save people's lives. What is the statistical value of a Thai life? Maybe it is not worth the investment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Assurancetourix said: The day a road police will be created .... things will change; Is it police that make you a good driver or is it common sense and self preservation? Till they grasp this, forget it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacrimas Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 They should just copy what they do in western countries? How difficult is that? I can't understand really. Put in prison people driving under the influence and get their cars and driving licences. Fine heavily those speeding. If death happens in an accident put in jail who is responsible. Use technology etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surasak Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 2 hours ago, trainman34014 said: Errrrr; most of them didn't get any 'fitted' at birth ! They probably did, but had it knocked out of them by parents then schools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verticalift Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Why are things so bad on Thai roads you ask...??? Simple.... There is absolutely no enforcement, or penalties for traffic violations. As a Canadian expat living in Phuket for over the past 20+ years, I have never seen a police car out on patrol, or pulling someone over for a traffic violation. In fact, in over 20 yrs I have never seen a “Normal” police car on the roads of Phuket. Sorry, but a 15 year old beat up Isuzu pickup truck, or a 110cc Honda Dream, isn’t exactly what the boys in brown need to do their job. Further, Thai society is such that the vast majority of Thai’s just don’t care. Sadly, “Apathy” seams to permeate every level of Thai society, when it comes to road safety. Several years ago, my wife was involved in a car accident. Not her fault. She sustained a fractured C2 vertebrae and almost died. She now has to live the rest of her life with 2 Stainless Steel rods in her neck. Every time I climb behind the wheel of my car in Phuket, I feel that it’s more dangerous than the Helicopters I fly in the Persian Gulf... and one of the reasons I now drive a Volvo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterphuket Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 "Thailand road carnage: A big problem that is only getting worse" Of-course it get worser, as I mention 1 week ago, all the people who drive now an motorbike, will soon or late drive a car. And we know how many people drive an motorbike in the most insane way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surasak Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 1 hour ago, jlwilliamsjr18 said: The problem can be found in boxes. Do you mean they are not ticking the right ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassosa Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 If Thais are OK with killing and maiming each other on the roads then who are we to disagree? I just don't understand why everyone is pointing the finger at government and law enforcement, as if it's their responsibility. It's the Thai people's responsibility to share the road in a responsible manner. They clearly can't be bothered driving safely so why not just let them at it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwill Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Maybe they should void all of the lifetime licenses they used to give out and make them come in and reapply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterphuket Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 6 hours ago, taichiplanet said: the only thing they haven't tried is to get the police to enforce the laws. Need more cop cars and bikes on the road pulling people over rather than sitting on their ar-ses at checkpoints. Even at the checkpoints it wold be a simple task for the cops to walk around each car/bike and quickly see if it street legal For example, in Europe, when they stop you at an checkpoint, they always ask for a driverlicense, at least. Here they only ask "where are you going?" Is that's the most important thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawadee1947 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 6 hours ago, keith101 said: In Aus you have to get a learners permit and then log 50 hours of supervised driving do a hazard perception test before you can even try to get your license and once you have then there is 2 yrs as a probationary driver before a full license is issued ,could you imagine something like that here will never happen but would result in properly trained drivers . The problem is that there are no properly driver instructors. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobz Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 There's a red light near my house with a camera system. I got fined a couple of times and now I've noticed that almost everyone stops for yellow there. This proves that Thai drivers respond to persistent enforcement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassosa Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, hobz said: There's a red light near my house with a camera system. I got fined a couple of times and now I've noticed that almost everyone stops for yellow there. This proves that Thai drivers respond to persistent enforcement. That's good to hear. The cynic in me immediately suspects the fines are never paid. Hope that's not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger70 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 6 hours ago, webfact said: A big problem that is only getting worse It's going to get a lot worse,No good flapping the jaws about numbers all the time.It's the incompetent Government that Can't make the Cops do their job 24/7/365 to enforce All the Laws. Whenever the government (if they can't )make the laws enforced. Get Rid off them and vote for people who Can enforce the Laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chazar Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 How frikkin hard is it to make the Police do their job, never seen a patrol car stop for anything, too busy speeding those VIP damn coaches about. They could make a fortune everyday until the message got rammed home Stop hogging the outside lane, stop giving no signals, swerving in and out, queue jumping, red light jumping, parking where you want inc the Police, no helmets, no tax , insurance licence.....Christ they could clean up in a few days.then you have to close half of the U turns so you can only turn in one direction at a time, the opposite carriage way has to u turn half a mile away..not ideal but when your view is 100% blocked due to other cars on the other carriageway trying to u turn at the same time we all know the consequences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunsetT Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Thais have good roads but are not taught to use them just as Thais have good brains but are not taught to use them! Education! Education! Education! ....And the increasing unbridled and unashamed use of Smartphones while driving and riding motorbikes means that the carnage is bound to increase. I just hopeand pray that I can avoid it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PEE TEE Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Don't worry about it Do nothing, it will get better ???????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHTel Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 6 hours ago, webfact said: despite campaigns to address the issue. Maybe try effective policing. But pigs do fly here! I've mentioned this before but getting a driving licence in Malaysia, a neighbour, is stricter than even the UK. 1. Register with a government recognised driving school 2. Only then can you apply for a 'learner licence' 3. Only allowed to drive with a driving instructor with 'L' plates. 4. Take a theory and 'on-road' driving test. 5. If passed then you'll get your provisional licence and 'P' plates have to be shown. 6. 'P' plates for two years then take a further theory and road test. 7. When passed, you will get your full licence. During all this, you have penalty points. If they are reduced to zero, then your licence is taken away and you have to start all over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 It would be interesting to see the statistics on motorcyclist deaths where no helmet was worn, and deaths overall at night. It's why I avoid driving at night. The majority of cars on the road have ABS as part of their safety equipment. I'd say motorbikes/scooters with ABS are in the minority. Statistics can tell the authorities where policy should be directed, although there is little evidence of implementation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chongalulu Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 6 hours ago, mauGR1 said: It will take some time before it gets better. My impression is that Thailand has developed too quickly, suddenly there are too many cars on the road, without much driving education. Their education,understanding and intelligence certainly hasn’t developed 'too quickly' ..other than in the opposite direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chongalulu Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Look,the population don’t care,the police don’t care,so why should the politicians? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chongalulu Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 8 minutes ago, SunsetT said: Thais have good roads but are not taught to use them just as Thais have good brains but are not taught to use them! Education! Education! Education! ....And the increasing unbridled and unashamed use of Smartphones while driving and riding motorbikes means that the carnage is bound to increase. I just hopeand pray that I can avoid it! You do not have 'a good brain' if you need to be taught the simple and basic art of self preservation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, nchuckle said: Look,the population don’t care,the police don’t care,so why should the politicians? Sad but true.....???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30la Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 It will get worse if no one is willing to enforce the laws / rules of the road! It is useless to discuss it if you do nothing then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunsetT Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, nchuckle said: You do not have 'a good brain' if you need to be taught the simple and basic art of self preservation. Dont take your cerebral software (education) for granted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krataiboy Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 On roads lacking a kerb, I always insist on walking against the flow of traffic. "I'd prefer to see the vehicle that kills me," I'd jokily tell anyone who asked the reason why. The joke is wearing thin. Twice in the last week alone, have had to shout a warning and take evasive action to avoid being struck by a motorcyclist veering towards me, eyes on his smartphone instead of the road ahead. One can't help wondering how many pedestrians, and cyclists and motorcyclists ended up on the official killed-and-injured list as a result of such hare-brained behavior - and why the B in B do so little to curb it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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