vogie Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 2 hours ago, MRToMRT said: Politics aside, why is the man just so damned unlikable? Even seeing a photo of him gives me the creeps. Strangely enough I get the same feelings as you with the likes of Grieve, Boles, Soubry, McDonnell, Abbott, Burgon, Letwin, Cooper, Swinson, Sturgeon and Blackford, oops nearly forgot the lovely Gina Miller, and last but not least Layla Moran. My list is in no particular order of creepiness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfill Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 1 hour ago, tebee said: Now I'm going to have to start campaigning for the abolition of the house of lords! And then you may as well go for the single party, single chamber. Just like that nice man in Germany a few decades ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfill Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: The voters have confirmed that in every Parliamentary Election he has stood in. Maybe you believe somebody other than the electorate get to choose who gets to the HoC. There's a report on Russian influence just waiting to be published which has been delayed until after the election. We wouldn't want the truth to emerge before, would we? And he has said publicly that he wants to go to america, having little interest in the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillyPlatt Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 1 hour ago, jak2002003 said: How is this democracy now in the UK? It's all fiddled and done in sneaky underhand ways, and that is on top of the first past the post thing. I have given up on the UK and am embarrassed to say I come from there now. Says the man living in Thailand. Its not fiddled, its called people making decisions that forward their ideals. The best thing, in my opinion, is for the Tories to get a working majority. End of. This country needs to start being governed and the liberal elite chattering class put back in their box. Social and economic decisions need to be made. The time for luvey naval gazing is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillyPlatt Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, vogie said: Strangely enough I get the same feelings as you with the likes of Grieve, Boles, Soubry, McDonnell, Abbott, Burgon, Letwin, Cooper, Swinson, Sturgeon and Blackford, oops nearly forgot the lovely Gina Miller, and last but not least Layla Moran. My list is in no particular order of creepiness. Grieve is a menace. Letwin is genuinely well meaning and i bare him no ill will. I loathe the SNP. Something for nothing facists. There only contribution is bitterness. Meanwhile, the Scottish economy and services are mismanaged. The Scottish parliament was a huge overspend and the last i heard the new internal rail link in Edinburgh was heading the same way. Looks like their former leader maybe about to get his cuppance. Professional stirrers, agitators and promise everything deliver nothing and then blame everybody else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 3 hours ago, cleopatra2 said: In the places that Brexit party is still standing . Will the Brexit party be campaigning for or against the Conservative WA They will be campaigning against the Labour and Lib "Dem" lack of withdrawal anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 2 hours ago, vogie said: Whatever the differences between leavers and remainers, we all have to admit what total self sacrifice of Nigel Farage to put his country before his party, it is just a pity that remainer MPs havn't done the same and we would have left the EU a long time ago. A truly remarkable selfless individual, truly worthy of a peerage. Remind me, is he still taking cash from the EU? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 51 minutes ago, mrfill said: There's a report on Russian influence just waiting to be published which has been delayed until after the election. We wouldn't want the truth to emerge before, would we? And he has said publicly that he wants to go to america, having little interest in the UK. The Weasel (Grieve-Author of the report-Laughably standing as an independent but likely to be routed by his constituents) explained on talkradio this morning that the report cannot be published until a new Govt is formed including the appropriate committee in that new Parliament. He said the process could take up to 6 months. The Weasel refused to be drawn on the content of the report which, given his behaviour in the last Parliament, suggests it cannot be that bad or he'd be warbling like a BGT finalist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vogie Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Remind me, is he still taking cash from the EU? As a sitting MEP, what do you think? My mother used to say to me "questions that needn't be asked, needn't be answered" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 13 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Remind me, is he still taking cash from the EU? Would you have him/them work there for free? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jip99 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 2 hours ago, tebee said: Now I'm going to have to start campaigning for the abolition of the house of lords! I think we have finally found something we might agree on............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jip99 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 14 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Remind me, is he still taking cash from the EU? Only a fraction of what Junker and his cronies are pulling out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slip Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 12 minutes ago, evadgib said: The Weasel (Grieve-Author of the report-Laughably standing as an independent but likely to be routed by his constituents) explained on talkradio this morning that the report cannot be published until a new Govt is formed including the appropriate committee in that new Parliament. He said the process could take up to 6 months. The Weasel refused to be drawn on the content of the report which, given his behaviour in the last Parliament, suggests it cannot be that bad or he'd be warbling like a BGT finalist. As he warned would happen at the beginning of the month, before Johnson deliberately quashed it. BJ running scared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuamRudy Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 49 minutes ago, WillyPlatt said: Grieve is a menace. Letwin is genuinely well meaning and i bare him no ill will. I loathe the SNP. Something for nothing facists. There only contribution is bitterness. Meanwhile, the Scottish economy and services are mismanaged. The Scottish parliament was a huge overspend and the last i heard the new internal rail link in Edinburgh was heading the same way. Looks like their former leader maybe about to get his cuppance. Professional stirrers, agitators and promise everything deliver nothing and then blame everybody else. Holyrood as built under a Labour government, as was the Edinburgh tram scheme. The rest is unsubstantiated, baseless bilge. But don't worry, we will be leaving you to your brave new brexit future very soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillyPlatt Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 1 hour ago, RuamRudy said: Holyrood as built under a Labour government, as was the Edinburgh tram scheme. The rest is unsubstantiated, baseless bilge. But don't worry, we will be leaving you to your brave new brexit future very soon. https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/construction-industry-experts-delivered-a-damning-verdict-on-the-scottish-parliament-building-five-years-after-the-official-opening-1-1230164 May have been Scottish labour behind it but did the SNP not want their own parliament? You think they would have done any better with their history of financial management? £40 million cost became £400 million for an unnecessary talking shop for jocks. Sturgeon hasn't been to vocal in her support for her former boss, has she? The forgotten man, so sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david555 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 And another runner (away) he is doing …..the bladder jaw man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliss Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 8 hours ago, Jip99 said: 5 - 10m votes are not to be sniffed at. Ill informed , nothing new .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillyPlatt Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, david555 said: And another runner (away) he is doing …..the bladder jaw man What's your problem? The truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david555 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 1 minute ago, WillyPlatt said: What's your problem? The truth. You gave the answer on him already ...5555 he is truly a bladder jaw man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliss Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 4 hours ago, jak2002003 said: How is this democracy now in the UK? It's all fiddled and done in sneaky underhand ways, and that is on top of the first past the post thing. I have given up on the UK and am embarrassed to say I come from there now. Putins vote sabotage, and not forgetting pressure from Trump. Democracy ah , those were the days . What brexit , dream on .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuamRudy Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 22 minutes ago, WillyPlatt said: https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/construction-industry-experts-delivered-a-damning-verdict-on-the-scottish-parliament-building-five-years-after-the-official-opening-1-1230164 May have been Scottish labour behind it but did the SNP not want their own parliament? You think they would have done any better with their history of financial management? £40 million cost became £400 million for an unnecessary talking shop for jocks. Sturgeon hasn't been to vocal in her support for her former boss, has she? The forgotten man, so sad. The decision to build Holyrood was taken in 1997 following the UK general election which returned a sum total of 6 SNP MPs. Try again, and this time try harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillyPlatt Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 15 minutes ago, RuamRudy said: The decision to build Holyrood was taken in 1997 following the UK general election which returned a sum total of 6 SNP MPs. Try again, and this time try harder. I don't need to try harder, i am pointing out that nationalism/independence whether via a well meaning labour party or the SNP leads to this total waste of money. Do you want me to start documenting the mismanagement of the SNP today not 1997? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuamRudy Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 35 minutes ago, WillyPlatt said: I don't need to try harder, i am pointing out that nationalism/independence whether via a well meaning labour party or the SNP leads to this total waste of money. Do you want me to start documenting the mismanagement of the SNP today not 1997? Badly managed building projects lead to a waste of money - that is what you are struggling to point out. If you think that devolution is a waste of money, that is a valid opinion but a totally different argument. But tell me about this SNP mismanagement, please do, although for the sanity of the rest of the contributors to this thread, can I suggest that you maybe expound on one of the Scottish threads currently running in World News? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jip99 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 1 hour ago, elliss said: Ill informed , nothing new .. No evidence to support your comment. Nothing new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 14 minutes ago, RuamRudy said: Badly managed building projects lead to a waste of money - that is what you are struggling to point out. If you think that devolution is a waste of money, that is a valid opinion but a totally different argument. But tell me about this SNP mismanagement, please do, although for the sanity of the rest of the contributors to this thread, can I suggest that you maybe expound on one of the Scottish threads currently running in World News? Salmond's court hearing won't do SNP any favours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuamRudy Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, evadgib said: Salmond's court hearing won't do SNP any favours. I tend to agree with you, but, of course, his guilt or innocence should have no logical bearing on the intentions of those who support independence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliss Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 10 hours ago, Jip99 said: 5 - 10m votes are not to be sniffed at. Actual figures , would be appreciated . 5- 10 m , not really accurate .. Nothing new ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 14 hours ago, webfact said: The move dramatically increases the chances that Johnson will stay prime minister Good move. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jip99 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 1 hour ago, elliss said: Actual figures , would be appreciated . 5- 10 m , not really accurate .. Nothing new ... Why is not accurate ? Negative comment, nothing to support it......still nothing new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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