Election gift for PM Johnson: Brexit Party stands down in Conservative seats

[Scott]

A troll post and reply removed.  

 

[edwinchester]

16 hours ago, blazes said:

Nice one, Nige.  The stronger pound you will inspire will make life in LoS just a little easier for most of us.

So he gets your blame for the plummeting pound he inspired 3 years ago I presume.

[yodsak]

 

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[tebee]

It's at times like this I feel (brief) pangs of sympathy for brexit supporters. It was sold to them by spivs who will sell them and their grandmothers out for personal advantage.

The whole Brexit party thing is looking more and more like a con, designed to extract money from its supporters and nothing else  - as it's a limited company, could it be prosecuted for intentional misselling ?

[transam]

3 minutes ago, tebee said:

It's at times like this I feel (brief) pangs of sympathy for brexit supporters. It was sold to them by spivs who will sell them and their grandmothers out for personal advantage.

The whole Brexit party thing is looking more and more like a con, designed to extract money from its supporters and nothing else  - as it a limited company, could it be prosecuted for intentional misselling ?

Think you have got it the wrong way round chap.....????

 

Plus, the UK voters probably don't give a toss that you chose to live on the other side of the channel....

 

I wonder how Bomber is doing in Portugal....????

[tebee]

Just now, transam said:

Think you have got it the wrong way round chap.....????

 

Plus, the UK voters probably don't give a toss that you chose to live on the other side of the channel....

 

I wonder how Bomber is doing in Portugal....????

So you are happy with the Tories  brexit deal now ?

[transam]

1 minute ago, tebee said:

So you are happy with the Tories  brexit deal now ?

I have no intention of reading the finer points of a zillion pages of bumph. All I am interested in is we are leaving the EU to let them get on with their fist full of future problems......????

[vogie]

8 minutes ago, tebee said:

So you are happy with the Tories  brexit deal now ?

The Tories Brexit deal is the result of remainers taking 'no deal' off the table and voting down anything put in front of them. Should the Tories win the GE with a majority Boris will have more elbow room to change/amend the deal or even leave with no deal. Remain is not an option!

[cleopatra2]

23 minutes ago, vogie said:

The Tories Brexit deal is the result of remainers taking 'no deal' off the table and voting down anything put in front of them. Should the Tories win the GE with a majority Boris will have more elbow room to change/amend the deal or even leave with no deal. Remain is not an option!

Boris called the GE because he could not get the WA through parliament without scrutiny.

It is difficult to see why he would now choose to seek alteration on a Consevative win

 

The Benn Acf did not take no deal of the table. It merely postponed the possibilty beyond 31 October .

 

 

[vogie]

8 minutes ago, cleopatra2 said:

Boris called the GE because he could not get the WA through parliament without scrutiny.

It is difficult to see why he would now choose to seek alteration on a Consevative win

 

The Benn Acf did not take no deal of the table. It merely postponed the possibilty beyond 31 October .

 

 

For all intents and purposes "the Benn act" did take no deal off the table, without this GE the can would have been kicked down the road for as long as the remainers in parliament wanted it to be. Boris did not have the threat of no deal to take to Brussels, let's not split hairs eh.

 

[cleopatra2]

3 minutes ago, vogie said:

For all intents and purposes "the Benn act" did take no deal off the table, without this GE the can would have been kicked down the road for as long as the remainers in parliament wanted it to be. Boris did not have the threat of no deal to take to Brussels, let's not split hairs eh.

 

The Benn Act was spent and could not be used again.

It should be remembered how it came about. Through Boris prorugation fiasco and still required the government to allow its passage through HoL. ( recall the government came to an agreement ).

The deal is Boris's deal he is not goung to go back and try to renegotatiate. 

If the WAB had passed its stages as anticipated by the government the Ben Act would not have been used.

 

 

[vogie]

7 minutes ago, cleopatra2 said:

The Benn Act was spent and could not be used again.

It should be remembered how it came about. Through Boris prorugation fiasco and still required the government to allow its passage through HoL. ( recall the government came to an agreement ).

The deal is Boris's deal he is not goung to go back and try to renegotatiate. 

If the WAB had passed its stages as anticipated by the government the Ben Act would not have been used.

 

 

Parliament is sovereign, it can do whatever it likes, that is the reason that after years of bickering and the failure of parliament to reach solidarity between the remainers in the house we are still in the EU and paying a billion pounds a month for the privilege.

There will be much more voting in parliament on what happens between ourselves and the EU, I sure it will be much easier if we are all singing from the same song sheet and not playing tug of war with the remainer rebels. Of course this is totally reliant on the Tories winning with a majority, but as we all know only a fool would take Brexit for granted.

[david555]

Meanwhile....

Daniel Boffey in Brussels

Thu 14 Nov 2019 18.20 GMT

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/nov/14/uk-not-nominate-eu-commissioner-before-general-election-european-commission

EU launches legal action after UK fails to nominate commission candidate 
Taxpayers could face paying for large fine after Downing Street fails to put forward nominee

 

British taxpayers face paying out for a large fine after the EU launched a legal action against Boris Johnson’s government over his failure to abide by the law and nominate a candidate for the new European commission.

 

( The move could ultimately see the UK government dragged to answer for itself at the European court of justice, where judges have the power to issue large fines on member states that fail to live up to EU law. )

 

more...

[tebee]

this could get interesting 

 

 

[nauseus]

2 hours ago, david555 said:

Meanwhile....

Daniel Boffey in Brussels

Thu 14 Nov 2019 18.20 GMT

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/nov/14/uk-not-nominate-eu-commissioner-before-general-election-european-commission

EU launches legal action after UK fails to nominate commission candidate 
Taxpayers could face paying for large fine after Downing Street fails to put forward nominee

 

British taxpayers face paying out for a large fine after the EU launched a legal action against Boris Johnson’s government over his failure to abide by the law and nominate a candidate for the new European commission.

 

( The move could ultimately see the UK government dragged to answer for itself at the European court of justice, where judges have the power to issue large fines on member states that fail to live up to EU law. )

 

more...

 

 

Yes more......

 

“The European commission recalls that, in accordance with established EU case law, a member state may not invoke provisions prevailing in its domestic legal system to justify failure to observe obligations arising under Union law”, the commission said".

 

and....

 

"The formation of the new commission headed by the former German defence minister has already been delayed by a month owing to the European parliament’s rejection of nominees from three member states".

 

So there we have it. EU law supremacy in action plus they don't fine anyone else for offering dubious candidates. More reasons to leave.

[david555]

4 hours ago, nauseus said:

 

 

Yes more......

 

“The European commission recalls that, in accordance with established EU case law, a member state may not invoke provisions prevailing in its domestic legal system to justify failure to observe obligations arising under Union law”, the commission said".

 

and....

 

"The formation of the new commission headed by the former German defence minister has already been delayed by a month owing to the European parliament’s rejection of nominees from three member states".

 

So there we have it. EU law supremacy in action plus they don't fine anyone else for offering dubious candidates. More reasons to leave.

Should left …!  if not wishing follow the law while being still a member ….., they (E.U.) just MUST implicate their own rules by themselves , nothing more nothing less....... the ball is and stays behind the Cliffs of Dover camp ….

[tebee]

The Great Brexit Party Swindle – how Nigel Farage's party took thousands for a ride.

 

https://bylinetimes.com/2019/11/15/the-great-brexit-party-swindle/

 

 

One of the astonishing things about the Brexit party is that it's MEPs are collectively the wealthiest politicians in the EU parl. They bang on about being anti-elite while treating their own ordinary supporters with what borders on contempt.

[WillyPlatt]

Is it not the case the EU's finances haven't been signed off for many years?

Hardly a bastion of fiscal responsibility.

Meanwhile back in Blighty, its Saturday and that means the main parties trying to out do each other on who will plant the most trees.

Do voters believe a word of this nonsense.

Interesting to see if Labour poll showings

go up next week after their free broadband for all nonsense.

 

[tebee]

3 hours ago, WillyPlatt said:

Is it not the case the EU's finances haven't been signed off for many years?

Hardly a bastion of fiscal responsibility.

Meanwhile back in Blighty, its Saturday and that means the main parties trying to out do each other on who will plant the most trees.

Do voters believe a word of this nonsense.

Interesting to see if Labour poll showings

go up next week after their free broadband for all nonsense.

 

https://fullfact.org/europe/did-auditors-sign-eu-budget/

 

Auditors say the accounts have been accurate since 2007. But they have historically recorded significant errors in how money is paid since their first audit in 1995. In the most recent year, they found a significant part of the EU’s spending was largely error-free for the first time.