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No non OA visa extensions in Hua Hin because no health Insurance.

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3 hours ago, 4MyEgo said:

Your correct, it wasn't on the previous page, glad you raised it, see below

 

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Note the 'who has been granted' AS WELL AS 'and has been permitted to stay'.. 

So anyone who has arrived already is good for the year.. Their 1 year permission of stay is valid. 

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33 minutes ago, Expattaff1308 said:

Just to clarify:- because in the Police Order it says extension to OA it doesnt mention the reason, (unless I missed it of course)

1. So despite coming in on a Non O-A 11 yrs ago and receiving annual extensions based on retirement... if I continued down this route I would need Insurance?

2. Change my extension to one of marriage to a Thai national and no insurance will be required?

1. At the moment it is looking that way, with 3 or 4 IOs putting out statements saying so, as well as a few 'agents'. Not a done deal, dead cert yet though!

2. Correct. 

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35 minutes ago, Expattaff1308 said:

Just to clarify:- because in the Police Order it says extension to OA it doesnt mention the reason, (unless I missed it of course)

1. So despite coming in on a Non O-A 11 yrs ago and receiving annual extensions based on retirement... if I continued down this route I would need Insurance?

2. Change my extension to one of marriage to a Thai national and no insurance will be required?

No one is going to be able to truly answer 2.. its not explicitly stated and will be officer and office dependant. Logic says a marriage extension should be exempted but it isnt exempted explicitly in the legal instruction. 

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1 minute ago, LivinLOS said:

No one is going to be able to truly answer 2.. its not explicitly stated and will be officer and office dependant. Logic says a marriage extension should be exempted but it isnt exempted explicitly in the legal instruction. 

Nor is it included in the Order specific to marriage Extensions. That has not changed in some time. 

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1 hour ago, Sheryl said:

Makes  no sense to put re entry permit in this category. It does not confer a new permission to stay or extension.

 

Not a single case reported of someone entering on a re entry permit being asked to show insurance. Nor 800k in the bank or 65k/ month for same reason. You have already met the criteria for your existing permission to stay and  no new permissio  to stay   or extension is being given.

You misunderstood my point. The order that was quoted said that an existing permission to stay remained valid.

 

I consider a re-entry permit to be an existing permission to stay so it is unaffected by the new order.

 

Therefore I would NOT expect anyone on a re-entry permit to be asked for insurance since they are on an existing permission to stay.

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1 hour ago, thinktoomuch said:

I created those images to answer a question.

No copyright infringement here, refer to #63 perhaps that will concur my thoughts

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19 minutes ago, mngmn said:

Common practice in the insurance industry.  You can't insure the same risk more than once.  Try purchasing three or four car insurance policies for the same driver/vehicle.

 

And before anyone mentions it you buy life *Assurance* not *Insurance*!  The risk is based on how long you live not the probability of an event happening (or not as the case may be).

 

Again most health insurance policies do alloe you to have othet insurance and there will be language in the policy which specifically addresses this to insure no double billing. You will also usually be asked the details of any other coverage at time of application.

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22 hours ago, Haribo said:

But what if the foreigner have an international health insurance whats cover in and outpatient with mutch more than 400 000 THB. Can they only show the insurance card or  the police cetrificate? Because i not understand if the client has a mutch better health insurance with a high cover wy the need a Thai health insurance with a low coverage?  

Aren't you supposed to be an agent,but still haven't got a clue about what's needed for a foreign health insurance to be accepted? 

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4 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

No copyright infringement here, refer to #63 perhaps that will concur my thoughts

Haha. Thanks for that, I actually missed post #63.

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1 minute ago, thinktoomuch said:

Haha. Thanks for that, I actually missed post #63.

All good, Sheryl's on it 🙂

 

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The Companies listed as those to get insurance from (12 I believe) are they the only ones acceptable??

I have found a company (office in Bangkok) whose cover is exactly what is required 400k / 40k and their premium is at least a third or even a half in some cases cheaper than those companies listed.

Looks to me that this consortium of companies listed are maximizing their premiums.

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5 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

Again most health insurance policies do alloe you to have othet insurance and there will be language in the policy which specifically addresses this to insure no double billing. You will also usually be asked the details of any other coverage at time of application.

This is what I have seen in my limited experience with insurance. The companies I have dealt with have some language about diving the cost of any claim between the various insurers if there is more than one.

 

However, I also understand the principle of not being able to receive double the payout because you have two insurance policies (haven't heard it for a long time though). It make me wonder if these companies are a bit old-school or if this is something that may be more prevalent in some countries but not in others.

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2 hours ago, Sheryl said:

You and other posters are basing this on strict interpretation of the  English translation.   Thai is not so precise with verb tenses. It can be made so by the addition of some helper words but this was not done.

 

What is translated as "has recieved" can just as easily he translated as "receives", i.e. present or future tense.  

 

In other words like many TI police orders it is vague and can be legitimately interpreted in more than one way (precisely what has happened).

If this were the case, and it were supposed to only be applied to visas obtained in the future, there would have been no need to write this part:

2.An alien, who has been granted Non-Immigrant Visa Class 0-A (not exceeding 1 year) and has been permitted to stay in the Kingdom before this order is effective, will be able to continually stay in the Kingdom for a granted length of stay.

The existence of this section shows that it most likely applies to all visas, but they didn't want it to affect existing permissions of stay, so they exempted these.

 

Can somebody post the link to the original Thai version of this document? https://drive.google.com/file/d/1B2icrv51NImXmu-QrsEvLG6jbh2Ulwl8/view

 

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