Bundooman Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 4 hours ago, Beggar said: This guy must have a mental disorder. Such people are a shame for other foreigners. I am upset too if someone doesn't stop at a pedestrian crossing. But his behavior is extreme. Well, in that case - I sincerely hope it happens to you as well. Please keep us informed if it does. We would all love to see your reaction to this kind of incident - particularly if you are on your rear end with the person who hit you, grinning all over her stupid face because it is very funny to her. Then see how YOU like it............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinnock Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 10 minutes ago, joecoolfrog said: How was it counter productive ? Because he reinforced the image of the crazy ferang, diverting focus from the core issue. If he really wanted to raise the road safety issue, as opposed to having a toddler tantrum, he would find a way to do it without looking like a nut job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLock Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Kinnock said: Because he reinforced the image of the crazy ferang, diverting focus from the core issue. If he really wanted to raise the road safety issue, as opposed to having a toddler tantrum, he would find a way to do it without looking like a nut job. How would you suggest a better way to raise the road safety issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nausea Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Why? It makes the roads look pretty. Might is right in Thailand, and a pedestrian is on the lowest tier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beggar Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Just now, Sumarianson said: We from the west know the meaning of a zebra crossing and abide by its rules under the law for the safety of the vulnerable pedestrian. It is about time other countries followed suit. This is Asia. Please watch the video from my post (#158). I have been many times in Vietnam. If you wait there until someone will stop you will never cross the road. You have to accept that other countries are different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katipo Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 They should just paint over all the zebra crossings to avoid confusion. They are a danger to society. (I can't believe I just wrote that. ????) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matzzon Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 40 minutes ago, Angry Dragon said: What is the pedestrian crossing law in Thailand? Vehicles must stop when a pedestrian is crossing, or something else? If you use common sense, which is not used in Thailand .Yeah, then they should stop if they have time. However, if they had time or not, depends on if they can be corrected by camera evidence or not. After that, I am pretty sure that there is nothing written in the traffic law about this. Of course, I can be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naamblar2014 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 5 hours ago, webfact said: They noted that in the UK, Australia, Japan and Western Europe drivers have to stop and penalties for those that don't are severe. True, but even in those countries people don't sit on cross walks. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Nick Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Matzzon said: Oh, let me present myself. Around 23 years here. How long have you stayed? Living on the right visa based on marriage or children as I wish. What about you? Presentation over. Did you have anything to contribute with regarding the thread as an on topic discussion, or was it only funny to concentrate on me as a person? Oh let me present myself: 12 years in the country- working Thailand related for 27 years, with numerous visits before moving here! On a visa and work- permit, oh hero of the Thai- people! Yes, I had things to contribute and believe me: you are not funny to concentrate on! Far from it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beggar Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, Bundooman said: Well, in that case - I sincerely hope it happens to you as well. Please keep us informed if it does. We would all love to see your reaction to this kind of incident - particularly if you are on your rear end with the person who hit you, grinning all over her stupid face because it is very funny to her. Then see how YOU like it............. I have been living here for more than two decades and I know that many will not stop. I also stayed many times in Vietnam. Please watch the video in post #158. There they will never stop. Simply cross the road in a predictable way and nothing will happen to you. I had this experience where foreigners asked me to help them to cross the road. And I understand their fear. But they need to understand that they will not be able to change the behavior here. They have to adapt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotman Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 21 minutes ago, joecoolfrog said: How was it counter productive ? because it achieves nothing for him or for anyone else. It also could well have resulted in a confrontation with locals, who are noticeably sensitive when it comes to Farangs trying to assert what they think are their "rights". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotman Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 29 minutes ago, charmonman said: How was it counter productive? He brought attention to the issue didn’t he? haha what issue? . Come on, you can't possibly be that naive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinnock Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 13 minutes ago, DLock said: How would you suggest a better way to raise the road safety issue? This is Thailand - you need to be calm, and ideally funny to get a message across. I would consider getting a big 'Stop' sign on a stick like a Western school crossing patrol, and help school kids cross the road by stopping traffic on a crossing near a school. Get a mate to video it - post on Youtube with Thai hashtags. Or get a pantomime zebra outfit and dance on the crossing - then post a video. Having a tantrum after foolishly expecting the road behaviours of your home country to apply on the other side of the planet is just embarrassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotman Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 10 minutes ago, DLock said: How would you suggest a better way to raise the road safety issue? very quickly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLock Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, Kinnock said: This is Thailand - you need to be calm, and ideally funny to get a message across. I would consider getting a big 'Stop' sign on a stick like a Western school crossing patrol, and help school kids cross the road by stopping traffic on a crossing near a school. Get a mate to video it - post on Youtube with Thai hashtags. Or get a pantomime e zebra outfit and dance on the crossing - then post a video. Having a tantrum after foolishly expecting the road behaviours of your home country to apply on the other side of the planet is just embarrassing. ...actually, fair points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnDone Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 5 hours ago, webfact said: They say that zebra crossings in Thailand are not the same as those from where he is from Really? I thought in Thai traffic laws there is written that they have the exact same purpose as where he is from 5 hours ago, webfact said: They noted that in the UK, Australia, Japan and Western Europe drivers have to stop But not here. Oh yes I'm sure it is the same here that they have to stop, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcnx Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, Kinnock said: This is Thailand - you need to be calm, and ideally funny to get a message across. So a cartoon safety campaign that plays before every movie, every television show, and every YouTube video. That really says a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcnx Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 6 minutes ago, Kinnock said: I would consider getting a big 'Stop' sign on a stick like a Western school crossing patrol, and help school kids cross the road by stopping traffic on a crossing near a school. They tried exactly that in Chiang Mai and it failed miserably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 24 minutes ago, Beggar said: Look at my video from Vietnam in post #158. This is Asia and you will not be able to change it. You have to adapt and honestly - somehow I enjoy this chaos here. But I guess it is only chaos in my eyes because I come from a country where laws are strictly enforced and obeyed. I think it is simply a more relaxed way of life here and not a chaos. After almost 25 years here I have adapted a lot and I don't get upset (don't lose my face) anymore. So it's an honest and relaxed 73 deaths? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkok Barry Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 4 hours ago, Beggar said: There is one on the Beach Road in front a big police station here in Pattaya and it even has traffic lights. It is not easy to see where the crossing exactly is and the buttons you have to press to switch the traffic lights are also somehow hidden. But in the end some drivers don't even stop if they have a red stop light. The only advantage you have there is if a vehicle hits you then it is not very far to the next police station ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matzzon Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 11 minutes ago, Saint Nick said: Yes, I had things to contribute Why did you not do that then, instead of concentrating on me as a person? 11 minutes ago, Saint Nick said: and believe me: you are not funny to concentrate on! Far from it! Still, why to you do it then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pluto56 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 For those critical of the farang's behavior, I think it was fairly restrained if one considers he got knocked down by the car. But yeah, yuk yuk, this isn't Kansas, so just dust myself off and wait till I get hit again. Geesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttrd Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 5 hours ago, Miaow said: For zebras? .... and nutters in need of 5min of fame ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bankruatsteve Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 In Thailand, traffic lights, signs, zebra crossings... are just a suggestion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 8 minutes ago, JohnDone said: Really? I thought in Thai traffic laws there is written that they have the exact same purpose as where he is from Oh yes I'm sure it is the same here that they have to stop, Nooo, I think it is optional here....???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winky Wilson Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Rule for zebra only for Thai citizen. Farang is low status so rules don’t apply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P100 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 I think Thai drivers need no driving schools. All they need to drive safe are GPS trackers. No wonder Thai driver licenses are only good in Thai country but do not get permanently recpgnized in any civilized country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smileydude Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 5 hours ago, mauGR1 said: So, if the cars don't have to stop for pedestrians on zebra crossings, what is the meaning of zebra crossings in Thailand ? There is a certain eye contact ritual which Thai people have with drivers. NOT ALL CARS WILL STOP BUT SOME WILL So the ritual starts by looking at the car/driver. If he slows down, then you can cross BUT MAKE SURE ALL THE CARS SLOW DOWN lest you want to be mowed down by the next car/driver who doesn’t want to let you cross. When in Rome do like the Romans do. Looking at zebra crossings etiquette from a western perspective will only get you killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bankruatsteve Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 1 minute ago, P100 said: I think Thai drivers need no driving schools. All they need to drive safe are GPS trackers. No wonder Thai driver licenses are only good in Thai country but do not get permanently recpgnized in any civilized country. I have used my Thai driver's license to rent a car in the states. Just sayin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 It annous me when foreigners expect laws to be the same as their countries. Thus idiot probably does things here that are not allowed in his country, like turning left at red lights or worse. People who stop at zebra crossings often cause accidents, as the person crosses and is hit by a car in the other lane. No excuse for this man's behaviour. The presenters were nice by just saying he was " ngong"(confused). I expect he was drunk and deliberately walkes in front of the car to show how superior he was ro the Siamese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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